NO MORE TANK ACK

[Skyguns MKII]

Wirbles are one thing but the new GV system made TANK ACK out of control. It is FAR too easy to shoot down aircraft from commander positions. You might as well load them with puffy rounds. I can't tell you how annoying it is to line up a panzer from behind then have his turret transverse 180 degrees and shoot you before you?re well able to drop or shoot anything at all. Totally kills promotion of AA support by other dedicated to do so GVs.

[icepac]

They can only shoot at a shallow angle.

[fbWldcat]

They can only shoot at a shallow angle.

Exactly, come in steeper, it has never been a good idea to have a shallow angle of attack.

[Skyguns MKII]

They can only shoot at a shallow angle.

Ahhh but that depends on the tank, Plus attack aircraft come from a low angle most of the time. Tanks can aim relatively high and trying to overcome that "shallow angle" and set up for a bomb drop can be VERY difficult.

[Skyguns MKII]

Exactly, come in steeper, it has never been a good idea to have a shallow angle of attack.

If I have an a20 loaded with 2 tons of ord and attempt to bomb from 3k and try to come in at a "steeper angle" you will either fail to pull up or lose your wings.
I dont know of any record of a tank being able to shoot down a aircraft with its turret.

[mechanic]

If I have an a20 loaded with 2 tons of ord and attempt to bomb from 3k and try to come in at a "steeper angle" you will either fail to pull up or lose your wings.
I dont know of any record of a tank being able to shoot down a aircraft with its turret.

The russians did it at least once, I heard somewhere.

Bottom line is it's a game, learn the parts that make you go boom and avoid them

[fbWldcat]

If I have an a20 loaded with 2 tons of ord and attempt to bomb from 3k and try to come in at a "steeper angle" you will either fail to pull up or lose your wings.
I dont know of any record of a tank being able to shoot down a aircraft with its turret.

No you won't, chop throttle and wing over, full flaps and pull up as soon as you drop, if not sooner.

[SmokinLoon]

If you zoom in and see their turret pointing at you, pull up!!!  Then, grab a wee bit more alt and then try it.

I agree %100 that it is a travesty in AH that a tank can shoot down an aircraft with its main gun.  The Hvy bomber-Stukas and gamin' the game dog-fighting Me163's as well.

A: tankers in WWII didnt concern themselves with the dive bombing or gun toting aircraft, their AA gun was a last resort and usually the enemy AT guns, tanks, and infantry were far bigger threats.

B: The IL-2 and Hurricane IID both came in a low angles (I forgot just how low).  The 190F-8 fired its rockets usually under a 20 degree dive.  It isnt that the aircraft in AH are doing anything wrong, it is just too easy for the main gun to shoot down aircraft.  But, wudya do??? It isnt like HTC is going to spend time dry humping the code to limit any of the travesties I listed above.  There are more important things for them to develop, so adapt and over come, or shush.      

[fbWldcat]

Maybe in real life that is how tanks were destroyed, but in AH, you have to do a method similar to what I described.

[Skyguns MKII]

If you zoom in and see their turret pointing at you, pull up!!!  Then, grab a wee bit more alt and then try it.

 or shush.      

rude! 

[cut67]

See Rule #7

[Skyguns MKII]

See Rule #7

[Beefcake]

One thing you need to remember is most players have many hours and lots of experience with shooting main guns at aircraft. I'm willing to bet that if tank crews in WW2 had the experience we do that there would've been more aircraft kills by tanks.

The solution is to fly higher, I can easily pull my B25 out of a dive when I'm bombing/75mming tanks, an A20 is even easier. Worse comes to worst just grab a fighter to do the job or heaven forbid another tank.

[Karnak]

Beefcake,

The main problem is being able to see what is happening around the tank and effectively aim and fire the main gun from the commander's position atop the turret.  Normally being buttoned up in a tank would deprive you of most of your situational awareness, particularly regarding aircraft.

[kvuo75]

Ahhh but that depends on the tank, Plus attack aircraft come from a low angle most of the time. Tanks can aim relatively high and trying to overcome that "shallow angle" and set up for a bomb drop can be VERY difficult.

nah. not difficult. slightly more time consuming. come in steep enough and you are practically invincible. isn't that worth a minute or two extra?

similar idea to attacking buffs. don't crawl up their 6.  do it correctly and you put yourself at very little risk.