Modify proxy kill range on Bombers

[jarbo]

Nothing is more awesome than to climb to 26k to enage a set of B17s to have them just bail after the bomb run.

Make proxy range at least 6.0.  To discourage the bomb and bauilers.

[Blagard]

Nothing is more awesome than to climb to 26k to enage a set of B17s to have them just bail after the bomb run.

Make proxy range at least 6.0.  To discourage the bomb and bauilers.

How will that discourage the Bomb and Bailer, he dies either way? Or at least fails to "land" his bombing points

What you are really saying is to encourage bomber chasers increase the proxy range so you have better chance of a "kill" if he bails.

[Karnak]

How will that discourage the Bomb and Bailer, he dies either way? Or at least fails to "land" his bombing points

What you are really saying is to encourage bomber chasers increase the proxy range so you have better chance of a "kill" if he bails.

It blocks the bomber's ability to not award kills, which I think is a stronger motive than you give it credit.

[Blagard]

It blocks the bomber's ability to not award kills, which I think is a stronger motive than you give it credit.

I dare say you may be right. - Hopefully, it only applies to a minority. I see it myself now and then, but didn't think it warranted treating the majority for the sake of a few gamers. Personally I would not want to spend all the time climbing to 26K+, then to bail rather than try to shoot down a struggling fighter for an even better score and satisfaction.  Most of the bombers I climb to give a good account of shooting back at me. If they bail it is frustrating, but you should not let it get to you.

[oneway]

Despicable conduct.

Are their bombers that do this?

Disgusting to say the least.

Same guys I guess that also dive bomb with level bombers?

Firing squad...not tomorrow....today...

<--- Bomber pilot who rarely if ever drives a fighter...

These guys give real bomber pilots a bad image..

Oneway

[guncrasher]

had it been a fighter who dives to the ground to get away.  wouldn't be questioned.  just think of it as the same thing as a fighter who runs away.  you wouldnt expect a kill just because you climbed to 25k.

as for the proxies you do know they don't coutn towards rank right? so it doesn't matter. on their end if they bail or die it is the same thing for their score.  so you are crying over nothing  .


semp

[MachFly]

Nothing is more awesome than to climb to 26k to enage a set of B17s to have them just bail after the bomb run.

Make proxy range at least 6.0.  To discourage the bomb and bauilers.

+1

[Tank-Ace]

How will that discourage the Bomb and Bailer, he dies either way? Or at least fails to "land" his bombing points

What you are really saying is to encourage bomber chasers increase the proxy range so you have better chance of a "kill" if he bails.

All proxy kills on buffs should award legitimate kills IMO. You spend 15mins climbing to 30k, htc should say "hell, you did the work, you get the perks"

Had that same crap happen to me today, yesterday, or whatever, it was on Saturday. Flying high escort for a resup goon mission of OddCAF's and hes loitering, just kinda circling around. AS SOON as the icon diplays 2.5k, the tard bails.

EDIT: better idea, take 3x the perks you would have earned from killing those buffs, subtract that ammount from all 3 perk categorys of the bomber pilot, and give all of them to you as fighter perks.

The slogan could be: "you bomb and bail, you get yer worthless tarding carcass pwned"

[The Fugitive]

had it been a fighter who dives to the ground to get away.  wouldn't be questioned.  just think of it as the same thing as a fighter who runs away.  you wouldnt expect a kill just because you climbed to 25k.

as for the proxies you do know they don't coutn towards rank right? so it doesn't matter. on their end if they bail or die it is the same thing for their score.  so you are crying over nothing  .


semp

Had it been a fighter who dove away, many would have followed it, with a bailing buff tard you don't have that chance. I think any tard that bails from a good plane that can fly and fight the whole sortie shouldn't count for anything but 3 deaths. No points awarded, no perks, nothing but 3 sorties and 3 deaths. Let them pay for the waste of time by wasting their time of the same flight.

Again, this falls back on that "honor" and "class" and "gamesmanship" some of us old timers talk about.

[bj229r]

It blocks the bomber's ability to not award kills, which I think is a stronger motive than you give it credit.

yup

[icepac]

My experiences at every single other multiplayer air combat sim tell me that people will go to great lengths to deny a kill to the person who shot them down.

In other sims, you have guys who will fall 29k down in thier wingless buff to drop a bomb right before hitting the ground which denys the kill to the person who removed said wings with thier guns.

These same guys will also run to enemy ack after receiving damage from your guns to deny kill (which gets awarded to the ack).

Aces High has done away with this exploit but it is a double edged sword such as when puffy ack blows off a wing on your fighter at 37k feet and the kill gets awarded to a guy rolling takeoff from the deck of the cv below.

Both methods are frustrating but Aces High's method is far less exploitable by the griefers.

[E25280]

All proxy kills on buffs should award legitimate kills IMO. You spend 15mins climbing to 30k, htc should say "hell, you did the work, you get the perks"

You might not get perks, but the kills are scored as any other when it comes to K/D ratio etc. for the ranking system.  So in that respect, they are already as legitimate as any other kills.

[jarbo]

2 things:
     1)  I think the bailer should be awarded a death
           - i think most bailer's do it for score, once they hit friendly territory           
     2) I think the closest NME pilot should get kills.
          

      They still would have the option of running; just would be harder
      The perk pts or not to awd perk pts, i dont care so much

[Karnak]

had it been a fighter who dives to the ground to get away.  wouldn't be questioned.  just think of it as the same thing as a fighter who runs away.  you wouldnt expect a kill just because you climbed to 25k.

as for the proxies you do know they don't coutn towards rank right? so it doesn't matter. on their end if they bail or die it is the same thing for their score.  so you are crying over nothing  .


semp

I have never seen a fighter do that.  In addition, should a fighter do it, the player in position to get a kill didn't spend 10 minutes climbing to altitude to engage.

[Lusche]

2 things:
     1)  I think the bailer should be awarded a death
           - i think most bailer's do it for score, once they hit friendly territory           
    

Bailing is being counted as "death" for score purposes. If score is a concern, you try to stay alive at all costs. It's two reasons why some players bomb'n'bail on a regular base: One is to deny the other player a kill, but most of the time it's simply to reduce turnaround time and to fly more sorties in a given time - drop bombs on town or hangars and get another set of Lancs back in the air before the defenders can say "cucumber"...