Back Road shakedown

[CAP1]

The 2000 hp Mustang in CAP's vid? On a road course? 

I wasn't talking o you Icepac, I was talking to CAP. I like the Ford GT, just wish Ford hadn't bungled it up so badly....

i don't like that body style mustang either..........but my point still stands.

[CAP1]

And for the 40 years since they haven't done squat in international sports car racing.


And CAP, you're saying you'd take a "straight from the dealership floor" cobrajet Mustang in a heads-up race against a ZR1?

edit- nevermind, I see it's a drag car.. 

I refer back to my comment about going fast in a straight line.  I know, ZR1 vs Cobra Jet Mustang on the 1/4 mile.... race down, turn around, and come back! 

boss302R

[Reaper90]

It does the road course just fine in addition to holding the current guinness world record for standing mile and the fastest officially timed standing mile ever.

Came from the factory with that capability?

[CAP1]

dood.....in the beginning of that video, you could hear it while he was a ways back. i think they edited out the pass on the vette though.

[F22RaptorDude]

Yes, yes it is.

Nice avatar.

Savor it, it may be the only compliment you ever get from me.

lol Stitch is kinda of an obsession for me right now, its weird they have a Japanese version of it. Not to get off topic, I don't know much about cars but man I want lol

[CAP1]

Came from the factory with that capability?

 cobra jet mustangs come from the factory running high 8's and high 9's. boss302's come from the factory capable of pulling 1.05g on the skidpad, 0-60 in 4 seconds, and  running 11 second 1/4 miles.
 gt350's come with those abilities too.  actually, the gt350's do 0-60 in 3.7 seconds, and run 11.3's i think....and also over 1g on the skid pad. so yea....they'll run with a vette.......

[Reaper90]

cobra jet mustangs come from the factory running high 8's and high 9's.

Is that factory built drag car street legal?

boss302's come from the factory capable of pulling 1.05g on the skidpad, 0-60 in 4 seconds, and  running 11 second 1/4 miles.

Maybe in race trim, but according to the test data the car runs 4.3 sec to 60 and 12.8 in the 1/4 at 113 mph. And it ain't getting anywhere 1.0g on street tires. 0.90g according to C&D.

gt350's come with those abilities too.  actually, the gt350's do 0-60 in 3.7 seconds, and run 11.3's i think....and also over 1g on the skid pad. so yea....they'll run with a vette.......

Nope. M/T tests of the GT350 (and every other one I've found) put it around 12.0 sec flat at 121mph. 3.7 sec to 60 does match the Corvette Z06, but the Vette walks away from it in the 1/4 mile at 11.7 sec at 123.6mph.

Go get a ZR1 and the ante is upped so far outside of Mustang territory it's not even worth looking into.

[CAP1]

Is that factory built drag car street legal?

Maybe in race trim, but according to the test data the car runs 4.3 sec to 60 and 12.8 in the 1/4 at 113 mph. And it ain't getting anywhere 1.0g on street tires. 0.90g according to C&D.

Nope. M/T tests of the GT350 (and every other one I've found) put it around 12.0 sec flat at 121mph. 3.7 sec to 60 does match the Corvette Z06, but the Vette walks away from it in the 1/4 mile at 11.7 sec at 123.6mph.

Go get a ZR1 and the ante is upped so far outside of Mustang territory it's not even worth looking into.

 .91 for the gt. 1+ for the boss. and that is the street car. the "R" model is obviously better.

 never said the cobra jet was street legal. it's a factory production car though. i'm sure that there's ways to get a vin assigned to one to make it street legal though.....

Our tester produced 519 rwhp on our in-house DynoJet, and created quite a stir on the street and at the track. At Gainesville Raceway, it blasted to an 11.62 at 122 mph on the grippy 265/40/19 Goodyear F1 Supercar G2 tires. We lapped the Steed during a test-and-tune night at Bradenton Motorsports Park on Mickey Thompson drag radials and ran 11.55 at 120, albeit in hotter, more humid conditions.

Read more: http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_1107_2011_shelby_gt350_mustang/performancesgt.html#ixzz1SlVffKUq
 from here.....
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_1107_2011_shelby_gt350_mustang/performancesgt.html

 it is second to a z06 though. but that's ok, 'cause although the vette is a beautiful car.....this incarnation of the mustang is much much more beautiful.

 oh yea....the street versions of the stangs i mentioned are much cheaper priced than the vette.........so they're fighting a car that's much more expensive.....and they can still do what they need to do.

[Grayeagle]

Kinda funny Cap that I post a link to a street driven Camaro (and yes anyone can have one built for them)
.. a monster very much so and hellya I'd drive it every day ..
..and you post drag car stuff.
Guessin I could post a top fuel link ..but .. naahh.. Ford doesn't go there.

I just enjoy a well engineered *fast* car
..already stated the reasons I dont care for Fords and will never own another one and refuse to work on 'em.

The new 'stang looks nice.
A very few of them actually run good.
The GT .. -shakes head- .. I'd rather drive a hot rod vette for that money mk thx.
Very glad I don't have to work on 'em.

AC Cobra .. it's just a damn shame Chrysler said no to Carrol's idea first.
Can you imagine what they would have been like with a 2.02 head, six pac 340 in 'em instead of that '260'
..and in '66 ..the street hemi?

And what if Chevy had said yes?

Pure animal cracker.

You know what I would enjoy seein?
Chebby takin what they have learned with the LS and buildin a Rat Motor ..an honest-to-God BIG Block
.. say .. LS firing order, 4.5" bore, 3.75" stroke w/2.35 intakes, 1.9 exhausts(similar to the Mondello Nascar head valve sizes)
.. in 'cathedral' heads, 10:1 compression, roller hydrastic cam
...in aluminum. Alla LS tricks.
Ya.. scare me

Sort of a modern day ZL-1 motor
They could do a cast iron version for their truck fleet.
NomNom's. (evil grin)

-Frank aka GE

[Grayeagle]

..and yes ..

that bore an stroke would yield a 477ci motor.

They'd have to go with 5" bore and 4" stroke to get the BIG in big block
(628ci)

More bore than stroke to enable a bit of RPM.

-Frank aka GE

[Reaper90]

.91 for the gt. 1+ for the boss. and that is the street car. the "R" model is obviously better.

not on street tires, it didn't.

Car & Driver test of 2012 Boss 302 Mustang 0.90 on the 200' skid pad

never said the cobra jet was street legal. it's a factory production car though. i'm sure that there's ways to get a vin assigned to one to make it street legal though.....

Our tester produced 519 rwhp on our in-house DynoJet, and created quite a stir on the street and at the track. At Gainesville Raceway, it blasted to an 11.62 at 122 mph on the grippy 265/40/19 Goodyear F1 Supercar G2 tires. We lapped the Steed during a test-and-tune night at Bradenton Motorsports Park on Mickey Thompson drag radials and ran 11.55 at 120, albeit in hotter, more humid conditions.

Read more: http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_1107_2011_shelby_gt350_mustang/performancesgt.html#ixzz1SlVffKUq
 from here.....
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_1107_2011_shelby_gt350_mustang/performancesgt.html

And more "test data" from a Mustang and Ford magazine. Probably as unbiased as the Mustang Mag that did the "race" between the Boss 302 and the Camaro with two members of their staff driving.  

it is second to a z06 though. but that's ok, 'cause although the vette is a beautiful car.....this incarnation of the mustang is much much more beautiful.

Than the Vette?   That's like picking Rosie O'Donnell over Kate Beckinsale!!

oh yea....the street versions of the stangs i mentioned are much cheaper priced than the vette.........so they're fighting a car that's much more expensive.....and they can still do what they need to do.

Not with the GT350 and GT500... those stickers are in Z06 territory....

[CAP1]

well....yea. people that deal with american performance cars will know how to drive them better.


The Boss is meant to be more than a drag racer, so the suspension gets stiffer springs and bushings, a bigger rear anti-roll bar, and five-way adjustable shock absorbers, which allow the driver to tweak the Mustang's ride and oversteer/understeer balance. Staggered Pirelli P-Zero tires give the Boss 302 more than 1g of lateral grip on the skidpad. Stopping is important too, so the Boss gets bigger brakes with expansion-resistant brake lines.


from here.....
http://mustangs.about.com/od/testdrives/ss/2012-Ford-Mustang-Boss-302-review_3.htm

so? is this you nit-picking, to try to make a point?

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Get full test numbers, read a review, and see photos of the new Boss 302 at ... to ignore our lateral-grip figure, recorded on a skidpad dusted with sand. ...

 AND GE./.......i'm just bustin yer stones dood. i figure you know me well enough to know how to take it. 

[Reaper90]

well....yea. people that deal with american performance cars will know how to drive them better.

And guys who's paychecks are written by a Mustang magazine know how to sandbag when they drive a Chevy against their "baby".... 

so? is this you nit-picking, to try to make a point?

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So you're saying C&D 1) doesn't have qualified drivers to test cars, and 2) put sand on the skidpad to throw the Mustang's numbers?

 

[Reaper90]

Car & Driver "Lightning Lap" times

Best lap time of any Ford Mustang tested on the VIR full course was the Shelby GT500, 28th fastest... and it could only tie the 3:04.00 lap time of the Caddy CTS-V... and was slower than the Corvette Z51, Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR1..... by a huge margin.

The Z06 was 9 seconds a lap faster than the GT500... and the ZR1 a whopping 14 sec a lap. Heck, the Z51 Corvette, basically the stock Vette with the sports handling package, is 5 sec quicker around the track... with FAR less horsepower than the GT500. The Ford GT was a bit quicker than the GT500, but still lagged 7 sec a lap slower than a Z06 and 11 sec a lap slower than a ZR1.

I'll be real interested to see how the big bad Boss 302 compares once they test it.... if it can even break into the top 25 times.

Looks like there are some dogs that just need to stay on the porch! 

[CAP1]

And guys who's paychecks are written by a Mustang magazine know how to sandbag when they drive a Chevy against their "baby".... 


 

So you're saying C&D 1) doesn't have qualified drivers to test cars, and 2) put sand on the skidpad to throw the Mustang's numbers?

 

 you read the paragraph. they themselves said to ignore their skid pad times.

 about dot come isn't a ford site......that i know of anyway.