Remove/Reduce tank perk loss when killed by aircraft.

[Beefcake]

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With the introduction of the Tiger 2 I'd like to throw out an idea on the regards to perk tanks. Perk tanks are fun to drive and can be tough beasts on the battlefield, however, most of the time they're at the mercy of attacking aircraft with little chance to defend themselves. Because of this it can somewhat ruin the fun of trying to use heavy tanks in a GV battle since they're usually singled out and bombed to death.

What I would like to propose is the removal or reduction in loss of perk points when a perk tank is killed by an aircraft. My logic is tanks can't runaway when in trouble like most perk aircraft, they can't really hide since there is limited cover, and unless the attacking aircraft comes in insanely low the tank as almost no chance of shooting down the plane. The problem is you can't reduce the perk cost of heavy tanks other wise that's all anyone would ever use, so instead you kinda separate the "perk point battlefield" if you will.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I'd like to use perk tanks more liberally where my primary threat when it comes to perk loss is other tanks. Aircraft are still the dominant threat to tanks but the loss of a perk tank to a plane won't hurt as much as it will to other tanks.

Thoughts? Flames? Popcorn?

[Tyrannis]

Personally i think The perks awarded to the pilot who gets the bomb****-kill on the GV should be reduced.

When they realize they could make more perkies per kill in a gv vs gv instead of bomb vs gv they may shy away from using aircraft in favor for the higher perk-earnage choice.
 

[Lusche]

When they realize they could make more perkies per kill in a gv vs gv instead of bomb vs gv they may shy away from using aircraft in favor for the higher perk-earnage choice.

If players would think that way, the ENY P-51D and Spit 16 wouldn't be the most popular rides by a huge margin. And the main airborne tank killers would be B5N and Hurri D.
Perks are not that important for the majority. Getting a quick and easy kills is. Less perks for killing tanks planes wouldn't change anything in the rain of bombs going down on the tankers.

[Karnak]

Not a bad idea.  I still think that there should also be a region around the spawn points where vehicles used in an attack can fall back to and 'land successfully' regardless of enemy proximity.

[Tank-Ace]

Massive FlaK batteries around GV spawns  .

+1, I can't tell you how many times I've had a good fight going, me and another tiger slugging it out at long range, and boom, I can hear an 'effing cookie dropped my way. Since the cookie gives the kill to the lanc pilot, I loose my perks, have a fun fight ruined, AND don't even get to know who I was fighting.

I'd say you loose 1/3rd of your perks when killed by a plane. It means theres less of a reward for bomb****s (often they do it to screw tankers out of their perks), it makes it harder for the "No fair, you're not allowed to shoot me  !" crowd to ruin a fight because they're upset, and it leaves the aircraft's ability to defend a base and uncamp a spawn perfectly intact.

[M0nkey_Man]

Great idea, +1

[guncrasher]

perk or not perked when I hear bombs falling on me, I bail.  a ditch only takes away some of the perks and fighter gets no kills.

semp

[Karnak]

perk or not perked when I hear bombs falling on me, I bail.  a ditch only takes away some of the perks and fighter gets no kills.

semp

That is not cool in my book.  I expect to get the kills I worked for and I give the kills others worked for.

[guncrasher]

dropping a bomb on a gv is not working on a kill, I drop lots of  them and wish they didn't earn perks unless you are in an airplane that was designed for it like the il2 or ju87.

anyway I like the idea proposed.

semp

[AWwrgwy]

From the front page:

While it may be the apex predator in tank to tank battles, don't leave your air superiority at home

Sage advice.


wrongway

[Karnak]

dropping a bomb on a gv is not working on a kill, I drop lots of  them and wish they didn't earn perks unless you are in an airplane that was designed for it like the il2 or ju87.

anyway I like the idea proposed.

semp

If I spend 15 minutes lugging a bomb and then drop it accurately, then I earned that kill just as much as anything else.

[Skyguns MKII]

-100,000,000   So you all want to eliminate realism in game? Ground support and air support go hand and hand as they did in real life. so why take away from that? ITS YOUR RISK FOR NOT HAVING FIGHTER CAP OR AA COVER I got SHOT DOWN,  by a t34 from 2.5 k away just today by LTGOAT, i think your fine. However, beefcakes idea is honorable due to the fact that aircraft still get there kills yet Gvers don't lose as much.

[Karnak]

-100,000,000  So you all want to eliminate realism in game? Ground support and air support go hand and hand as they did in real life. so why take away from that? ITS YOUR RISK FOR NOT HAVING FIGHTER CAP OR AA COVER I got shot by a t34 from 2.5 k away just today by LTGOAT, i think your fine...

How would it eliminate that?  You'd still be quite capable of bombing the perk tank into oblivion, stopping the its threat on the battlefield.

[Skyguns MKII]

How would it eliminate that?  You'd still be quite capable of bombing the perk tank into oblivion, stopping the its threat on the battlefield.

I understand. People wanting to get rid of air to ground support nearly all together is what angers me, partly because that's the true area i shine in game. Not only that but Air to ground support was HUGE in WWII. Its to my understanding aircraft were one of the hugest threats to GVs in WWII and so should they here.

Imagine, what if air to ground support never showed up or attacked any GVs in all of France prior and during DDAY. Either we would of lost or suffered more than enough casualties. 

[iron650]

Massive FlaK batteries around GV spawns
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So you all want to eliminate realism in game?

Adding onto Tank Ace's idea, have flak batteries and an outpost to spawn points make it more realistic.

+1