Remove/Reduce tank perk loss when killed by aircraft.

[bangsbox]

-100,000,000   So you all want to eliminate realism in game? Ground support and air support go hand and hand as they did in real life. so why take away from that? ITS YOUR RISK FOR NOT HAVING FIGHTER CAP OR AA COVER I got SHOT DOWN,  by a t34 from 2.5 k away just today by LTGOAT, i think your fine. However, beefcakes idea is honorable due to the fact that aircraft still get there kills yet Gvers don't lose as much.

a got a a20 from 2.5k that day too i was in a panther though. even still they are a dime a fifty.

[Vudu15]

Personally i think The perks awarded to the pilot who gets the bomber-kill on the GV should be reduced.

When they realize they could make more perkies per kill in a gv vs gv instead of bomb vs gv they may shy away from using aircraft in favor for the higher perk-earnage choice.
 

lol uh I just like bombin tanks in support of my good guys on the ground perks never come into that equation.

[W7LPNRICK]

I love bombing GVs in my P-47.   

or a D-Hog, or a 110, or a ........  

[Tilt]

I agree that GV icons are tooo prominent under various conditions.........

IMO gv's hid in trees should not have their icon pop out for air borne stuff to see..........
Stationary GV's should be harder to spot than moving GV's............

I disagree that GV's should be some how free from penalty of air attack........ GV's were the subject of air attac, infact the primary role of airborne strategy on the Eastern front was tactical front line attrition of the opposing enemies field placed armour and armoured infrastructure.

I agree with doing something with the spawn system (and spawn camping)............ I favour spawn roads which may or may not be camped (ambushed) at some point/s but the player can choose where upon the road he may spawn and so choose the level of risk taken when spawning further or closer to an enemy field. I am sure there are other options than warping a GV to a specific space on the map which is roughly known to all.

[Martyn]

If a tank is moving, or in the open, then its usually an easy target for aircraft. If the tanker whinges because planes can easily take him out - well I'm afraid that's close to what happened in RL. The Germans paid dearly for losing air superiority.

However, a GV close to (or under) trees that has also been stopped for a while could be camouflaged and be very difficult to spot.

I suggest therefore that a stopped vehicle can 'Camouflage' itself (press a button) and for a few seconds it can't fire or move. At the end of that period it's 'Camouflaged' and much more difficult to spot. As soon as the vehicle moves though, the 'Camouflage' is removed and it's visible from a distance again.

I reckon this could work great with digging in Stugs for ambush (when we get them) and hiding M3s and Jeeps (for spotting, maybe) and such.

[LLogann]

When you up your perk tank, have a friend, or two, up Whirbles.  





FIXED

[Butcher]

When you up your perk tank, have a friend, or two, up Whirbles.  

FIXED

For someone who doesn't tank, I have no idea why you are here.
LLogann
Kills In
M4A3(75)   0   
M4A3(76)W   0
Panzer IV H   0   
Panther G   0
T-34/76 0
T-34/85 0
Tiger 0
Wirbelwind   15

I can see why you don't have a clue what the rest of us are talking about.

[Raphael]

I suggest therefore that a stopped vehicle can 'Camouflage' itself (press a button) and for a few seconds it can't fire or move. At the end of that period it's 'Camouflaged' and much more difficult to spot. As soon as the vehicle moves though, the 'Camouflage' is removed and it's visible from a distance again.

I like this idea but the model would still be visible, just with no icon while camouflage is up and also make it take some time to put the camo up like a "loading" thing instead of instant. and when i say model visible there could even be a model for each camo and skins.

Im not a tanker but i like hunting them with the hurri D and i agree with this idea, would make gameplay even more interesting.

EDIT: but back to the main topic here... NOT losing perks to aircraft kills... yea... no. makes no sense to me the same way i can get killed by any plane and gv, if I up a perk ride i have the risk of losing it and that makes the game more dinamic other then upping the superior rides all the time

[Tank-Ace]

Perhaps add foliage to your turret and hull to break up the outline? I often get momentarily scared by the wheel-barrows sitting by the farms at a distance. Namely because their strait lines are reminicent of the hull of a tank. GV'ers should be looking for strait lines of a tank turret or hull that nature (even HTC's monocromatic version) doesn't produce a lot of.


Moving GV icon: 1.5K
Stopped GV  icon: 800yds
hidden GV: no icon

[Raphael]

Moving GV icon: 1.5K
Stopped GV  icon: 800yds
hidden GV: no icon

Seems ok to me if you consider the model is always visible. not bad. remember that to be hidden the gv cant shoot or any other action

[Tank-Ace]

The turret would have to be able to move or it would defeat the entire purpose of upping a tank. But agreed, if you fire, or do anything dumb, then you're icon becomes visible to the point of a stopped GV (aircraft only know where you are when you shoot, they still don't see the actual tank).

[Raphael]

hmm in that case if you used the camo and shot, your icon pops up and stays even with the 800yrds limitation but you wont be able to be icon free anymore unless you hide somewhere else. bexause i can see abuse if you stay with no icon and shooting from time to time.

[Tank-Ace]

Agreed. Or maybe have the icon apear after 2 rounds fired, since (unless you're already looking for it) theres a decent chance you won't see the first. Would encourage more realistic tactics, and better fights IMO.

[Raphael]

yeah seems really cool and in my opinion could only bring benefits to the game except for one thing. the low resolution PC's, yes i mean the dinossaurs

[des506]

can i ask if things have changed since? i used to have to fly close to 4k alt to just barely see gvs on ground... is that not good enough??...i really think the gv model is fine as it is...not that i gv much anyway... you do know you can hide in barns as well rite?and you dun show up as a red? thats why hitech left many barns close to town... it works already... . but if you wanna change soemthing... change and refine the collision model...