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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2011, 02:50:43 PM »

Instead of showing her when she was able to be propped up, they ought to show this when talking about her death.

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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2011, 04:27:02 PM »

I had been a serious addict of cannabis for over ten years in my past,

 :lol  :lol That Bob Saget line from "Half Baked" comes to mind.

Serious cannabis addict...  :lol   :lol  :lol Gimme a break.  :lol  :lol  :lol
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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2011, 06:12:16 PM »


Serious cannabis addict...  :lol   :lol  :lol Gimme a break.  :lol  :lol  :lol



 So you dont think you can be addicted to cannabis? I hate to tell you this but you can become addicted to almost anything if you get the proper neuroresponse.

   I'm a longterm user of morphine,I have a severe pain problem,neropathic pain and I can support the mechanics statement that nicotine can be harder to quit than any opioid. I dont consider myself addicted to morphine,but I am dependant on it and if I dont take it I get very sick! Over the past 20 years I've quit taking the morphine several times to see if I could get by without it,I've never been successful in quitting smoking,even though I know it's the right thing to do.

 Addiction is a difficult topic,I wont go on anymore as this isnt the time or place.  However the 27 club comment I made was to point out how sad things are in this world,we treat these people like criminals when they need to be treated as sick people,but hey there's no money in that!!


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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2011, 06:57:56 PM »
im 5 months smoke free. Nicotine is harder to quit than heroin, nicotine is the hardest drug to quit of them all, slap on the back Vudak.

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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2011, 07:11:50 PM »


 So you dont think you can be addicted to cannabis? I hate to tell you this but you can become addicted to almost anything if you get the proper neuroresponse.

 

Please post some scientific evidence that one can become addicted to cannabis. Be forewarned that I will then find an equal amount of scientific proof to the contrary.

My guess is that our boy mechanic was probably a bit wet behind the ears at the time and what he perceived as an "addiction" was nothing more than a bad case of the "gimmie gimmies".

Anyway, to stay on topic, too bad about the Winehouse broad but nobody can say they were shocked. IMHO she wasn't a very good musician (one hit wonder comes to mind) however, nobody deserves to crash and burn like that. Well, almost nobody.

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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2011, 07:33:45 PM »
 Well Melvin I guess it comes down to your definition of addiction,there are basically 2 kinds physical and psychological. While there is little evidence that cannabis is physically addictive there is plenty to support the psychological side of it.

  As I've said I wont debate this here and your intitled to your opinion on this subject.



   I'll leave you with this question to ponder..... Is coffee addictive?    your answer to this question whether ya or nay would be your opinion and the same answer to the cannabis issue.



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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2011, 07:40:48 PM »
Glad to see our country is more worried about a horrible singer that died from doing drugs, then they are of 80 kids being killed by a crazy man dressed up in a police outfit...


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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2011, 08:06:41 PM »
Glad to see our country is more worried about a horrible singer that died from doing drugs, then they are of 80 kids being killed by a crazy man dressed up in a police outfit...

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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2011, 08:08:40 PM »
Glad to see our country is more worried about a horrible singer that died from doing drugs, then they are of 80 kids being killed by a crazy man dressed up in a police outfit...


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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2011, 08:12:53 PM »
27 years old....  The Golden Age of Death for celebs..........   :(
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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2011, 08:30:01 PM »
Please post some scientific evidence that one can become addicted to cannabis. Be forewarned that I will then find an equal amount of scientific proof to the contrary.

My guess is that our boy mechanic was probably a bit wet behind the ears at the time and what he perceived as an "addiction" was nothing more than a bad case of the "gimmie gimmies".



You have alot to learn.


edit: I was going to send this respectfully via PM but I figure this thread is a valid palce to debate this. I will read your replies if you do reply as unbiased as I can, though I assure you I wont change my views. Which in itself is ironic because I started out with exactly the same views as you display here.


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Hey Melvin, just curious as to how long for and how often you have smoked weed. Don't think I am about to preach to you about quitting, hah! Anything but that. I wish I could still smoke it, I love the stuff. Love it way too much. You know you are addicted to something when you do it everyday as your priority, before looking after your health, your happines, your future. You know you are addicted when you smoke a joint as soon as you wake up then sit in a computer chair for hours all day smoking more and more joints. You know you are an addict when you have a brief window of clarity before you smoke the first joint of the morning and intantly regret it, day after day, but carry on doing it. You know you are an addict when you visibly see and feel your body falling apart due to your habit but carry on anyhow. I could keep listing many things that made me know I was an addict and believe me, over ten years of this behaviour utterly destroys even my young body. Right now I am 28, one year past that which Amy Winehouse died. I'm not wet behind the ears. I gave up finaly 5 months ago from now.

 Now I wish I could smoke the odd doobie and have a laugh, like the early days 15 years ago, but those days ended for me 10 years ago. I wish I could enjoy a ciggy also, with a coffee or after a meal. But I can't bec ause I have pushed both those indulgences far beyond any safe level and to even smoke a tiny bit will ultimately start me sliding back down to constant stoned and/or 20 a day ciggys.


You are right physicaly, because giving up the weed was far far easier than giving up the nicotine. I spent 3 or 4 weeks desperately needing a ciggy after I quit. I didnt use patches or gum or any aid, I just stopped after smoking for nearly 2/3 of my life. It was utter hell and I fought with every once of my will power to not smoke a cig untill the physical addiction became a much easier to defeat psychological and routine addiction. With the weed it was the routine addiciton from the start, just a mild nagging thought at the back of my mind, no physical cravings at all. It's still there now, but it is simple to defeat.

Psychologicaly I knew I was smoking too much weed 10 years ago but I carried on for that whole decade, every single day, telling myself I would sort it out tomorrow. Psychologicaly I utterly addicted and to tell me I was not is pure ignorance.

I probably could have gone on for another few years or I may well have gone pop withing a few more weeks. I will never know now. But after 5 months of quiting I am feeling the terrible effects still of my body trying to clear out the decade of abuse I gave it.

Why do I bother typing this to you? I don't know. Perhaps it annoys me that you pass of my experience as 'wet behind the ears gimme gimme' or some such. Perhaps as a warning to keep things in moderation if you want to enjoy them. Perhaps as an argument for why you are wrong to say smoking da 'erb is not addictive. It was a way of life for me for half my life, something I love that changed me for the better and will never leave me now. But it is something that if I continued at my rate would have killed me before I wanted to die.

Scientific chemistry has nothing to do with it. You can be addicted to throwing paper aeroplanes psycologicaly.

Much respect to you for having an opposing viewpoint and voicing it, albeit a stereotypical one that has been hashed out near infinite ammounts of times before this, if you would excuse the pun. I still think you have alot to learn about addictions. I can assume you are a person who does not have an addictive personality.
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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2011, 08:34:34 PM »
After the cancellation of her last tour when she performed drunk and wasted on stage and getting out of detox, this is not a surprising, though regrettable, outcome. I never say RIP to people who commit suicide however because they actually don't. This is just an example of how people who get rich and famous, then lose everything and start looking like everybody else - unknown and unnoticed - that they can't handle being human instead of a puppet planting threes that grow money as fruits.
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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2011, 08:34:57 PM »
I'm pretty sure that no one person on the AH BBS speaks for the United States of America.
I know they sure as hell don't speak for me.

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Not referring to people on forums, I mean the news...all you see is this stuff about her. I could care less, she wants to kill herself on drugs, sucks for her. Its been all over the news today.

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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2011, 08:39:41 PM »
Not referring to people on forums, I mean the news...all you see is this stuff about her. I could care less, she wants to kill herself on drugs, sucks for her. Its been all over the news today.

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My apologies for taking that wrong.  Yeah, I believe they could have reported the story about her and then left it alone. 

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Re: Amy Winehouse found dead
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2011, 02:08:49 AM »
On the bright side, congratulations to Amy Winehouse on three days of sobriety.  :rock