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Offline des506

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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2011, 10:57:21 AM »
why can't we stick to this and have this instead...

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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2011, 12:09:42 PM »
Should, wouldn't mind seeing the Ju-52 once every other aircraft is created before it, such as Ground Vehicles, Fighters, etc.

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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2011, 04:05:54 PM »
AAAHHHHH  .  SM-82   a faster armed three engine axis transport used for para ops AND bombing
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2011, 04:24:52 PM »
Quote from: alpini13 on July 30, 2011, 04:05:54 PM
AAAHHHHH  .  SM-82   a faster armed three engine axis transport used for para ops AND bombing
And wouldn't be added for that reason.

Ju52, sure.  You get the choice of speed or guns when you choose between a C-47 and a Ju52.  An SM.82 that is faster than the C-47 and armed is no longer a choice.
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2011, 06:39:08 PM »
couldn't we perk it?
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2011, 10:09:48 PM »
Quote from: Raphael on July 30, 2011, 06:39:08 PM
couldn't we perk it?
I suppose, but I am skeptical how many people would think paying perks for it would be worth it.
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2011, 11:40:09 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 30, 2011, 10:09:48 PM
I suppose, but I am skeptical how many people would think paying perks for it would be worth it.

Perks for what? A transport that has a few rifle caliber machine guns? It would be a lower perk value then a C-47 of course, however I don't see any reason for it being even near as being perked.
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2011, 11:43:07 PM »
Quote from: Butcher on July 30, 2011, 11:40:09 PM
Perks for what? A transport that has a few rifle caliber machine guns? It would be a lower perk value then a C-47 of course, however I don't see any reason for it being even near as being perked.
Why ever use a C-47 when you have an SM.82 as an option?  It is faster and armed.
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 06:12:18 AM »
Okay, I am a believer and this is not just a good choice it is a great choice. The SM. 82 has the usage, numbers, history, and flight characteristics to be a winner in this category.



 :aok Gets my vote...

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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 08:09:43 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 30, 2011, 04:24:52 PM
And wouldn't be added for that reason.

Ju52, sure.  You get the choice of speed or guns when you choose between a C-47 and a Ju52.  An SM.82 that is faster than the C-47 and armed is no longer a choice.
bull. you have no actual idea whether htc would add it or not. if the documentation and illustrations exist, it could very well get added.
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 02:00:18 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on July 31, 2011, 08:09:43 AM
bull. you have no actual idea whether htc would add it or not. if the documentation and illustrations exist, it could very well get added.
And would completely remove the C-47 from the game.  If added, it would need to be perked.  It would be a perk plane that was a free kill.

How many people do you think would pay perks for it over a free C-47 or Ju52?
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 02:05:47 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 30, 2011, 11:43:07 PM
Why ever use a C-47 when you have an SM.82 as an option?  It is faster and armed.
Why ever use a hurr one when you have a hurri2 as an option? it's more heavely armed and comes with droptanks/bombs.
Why ever choose a spit one when you have a spit V as an option? its more heavely armed and comes with drop tanks.

Why choose the b25 when you have the b26? the b26 is more heavely armed and comes with a bigger bombload.


Just because there is something better already in the game, should not be reason enough to exclude an aircraft from inclusion.  :salute
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2011, 02:22:06 PM »
Quote from: Tyrannis on July 31, 2011, 02:05:47 PM
Why ever use a hurr one when you have a hurri2 as an option? it's more heavely armed and comes with droptanks/bombs.
Why ever choose a spit one when you have a spit V as an option? its more heavely armed and comes with drop tanks.

Why choose the b25 when you have the b26? the b26 is more heavely armed and comes with a bigger bombload.


Just because there is something better already in the game, should not be reason enough to exclude an aircraft from inclusion.  :salute
Because there are Hurr I fans, Spit I fans and B-25 fans.  I have yet to see a single thread in my over 11 years on this forum from a C-47 fan.

Basically, the request for the SM.82 is a request to make base captures easier.
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2011, 02:26:33 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 31, 2011, 02:22:06 PM
Because there are Hurr I fans, Spit I fans and B-25 fans.  I have yet to see a single thread in my over 11 years on this forum from a C-47 fan.

Basically, the request for the SM.82 is a request to make base captures easier.
im a c47 fan, and i just became a fan of the SM.82 after seeing it  :aok
admittingly tho, not because of its 3 engines,speed, or armament, but because it looks so dam sleek&sexy  :o

If it wasent aloud in the MA, it would atleast be nice to have for scenarios/AvA.
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Re: We need an AXIS Transport... JU-52 or AR-232
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2011, 02:28:50 PM »
I think the C-47 vs Ju52 gives an interesting choice for troop transporting, speed of the C-47 or guns of the Ju52.  I think there is a clearly superior answer between the two, but my opinion is not the be all, end all opinion.
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