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Offline StokesAk

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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2011, 05:47:14 PM »
huh, i though the A4 was already remodeled! WOOO!
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2011, 05:50:53 PM »
Panzer IV needs a remodel as well, but we are now nearing the end of the vehicle remodels.  Just the Panzer IV H, M8, M16 and the other LVT.  The only one of those that does not share lots of artwork with GVs that have already been remodeled is the M8.
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2011, 06:31:44 PM »
I would wish for a Yak remodel but I'm afraid they'd take away the lovely views. ;)


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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2011, 06:51:50 PM »
I can find no data to support your claim.  Only things to shoot out of this 75mm M3 was the M89 Smoke & M48 H.E. rounds.   :uhoh

AP rounds were available. As you said, they sucked, but they were available.
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2011, 07:35:01 PM »
I can find no data to support your claim.  Only things to shoot out of this 75mm M3 was the M89 Smoke & M48 H.E. rounds.   :uhoh

Towed and airborne versions of the 75mm howitzer in Europe had HEAT rounds for use against armor.

But since the LVTs were primarily used in the Pacific where enemy armor was not generally much of a threat, I don't know if issuing HEAT rounds to the LVTs would be appropriate.
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2011, 08:14:54 PM »
oh, thats probably what I was thinking of
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2011, 08:32:22 PM »
Beautiful and a big WTG on that LVT4!  There is no doubt about it: AH has some of the best looking "skins" for tanks and other vehicles going in any MMO right now.  Hopefully they can get rid of the modified flight model for GVs they have been using since day one and create something a bit more believable.

Also, some sort of new terrain that actually gives the sense of ground as you drive over it and through objects would definitely be a big plus for me.

Anyway, looks great!
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2011, 08:44:24 PM »
Why?  Muzzle velocity wouldn't pierce anything.

More importantly, as a howitzer I doubt it even had AP rounds as an option.

since the gun on the lvt is a 75mm pack-howitzer, designed for close-in artillery support and not direct anti-tank use, so no AP available. great for taking out towns though.

Towed and airborne versions of the 75mm howitzer in Europe had HEAT rounds for use against armor.

But since the LVTs were primarily used in the Pacific where enemy armor was not generally much of a threat, I don't know if issuing HEAT rounds to the LVTs would be appropriate.

LVT4s were supplied with AP rounds in the Pacific.  The problem is that some are equating using AP rounds against other armored vehicles but in the Pacific, the LVT4s were primarily used to support ground troops along with the Sherman tanks.  Like the Shermans, the LVT4s were used to take out reinforced enemy positions, like reinforced bunkers where the AP round was able to penetrate through the feet of concrete and steel.  However, there were some occasions where the LVT4s did fire on Japanese armored vehicles using AP rounds but the primary use was to take out hardened targets.

The mounting of the turret on the LVT4 also allowed it to be used in the direct fire role.

AP rounds were available. As you said, they sucked, but they were available.

Whoever said they sucked doesn't know what they were talking about.  LVT4s firing AP rounds were very effective in taking out Japanese strong points as exampled in battle such as Peleliu, Saipan, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa and a myriad of other island battles for the Pacific.

I can find no data to support your claim.  Only things to shoot out of this 75mm M3 was the M89 Smoke & M48 H.E. rounds.   :uhoh


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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2011, 10:10:09 PM »
Japanese tanks had very thin armor right?  if we had AP for the lvt would it even be effective vs our tank lineup?

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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2011, 12:59:21 AM »
Japanese tanks had very thin armor right?  if we had AP for the lvt would it even be effective vs our tank lineup?

No.  Remember the ammo the 75mm gun fired on the LVT-4 is the exact same ammo fired in the M4/75mm.  With an even shorter barrel (producing even less velocity), the AP ability of said round would be even less. 

Even vs "soft" armored targets such as the M3, M8, SdKfz 251, jeep, etc, the HE round performs even better.  With HE, a hit isnt needed to disable it. The splash damage is usually enough to blow tires, disable turrets, damage engines, or outright destroy it. 
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2011, 05:59:09 AM »
No.  Remember the ammo the 75mm gun fired on the LVT-4 is the exact same ammo fired in the M4/75mm.  With an even shorter barrel (producing even less velocity), the AP ability of said round would be even less.

muzzle velocity isnt such an issue for HEAT (shaped charge) rounds.


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HEAT M66 Shell penetrated about 91 mm of homogeneous armor at 0 degrees at any range.


if they were issued in small numbers in either theatre, then how about a few with the HEs as an option like the T34 HVAPs :aok


edit: some smoke rounds would be nice too :)
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2011, 06:20:00 AM »
Go, Baby, Go!

So place your bets...what will be next to be remodeled?

Panzer
C.202
M16
B-26
LVTA2
Yak 9T
M8
Yak 9U
B5N
Ju-88
Ju-87
Lancaster
Ki-67

And I KNOW I'm forgetting a plane or two... :rolleyes:  But I'm certain that someone will post what else is in dire need of remodel. :aok

With the M16, why did they not have the quad 50's as an option when the M3 came out?  Was it that much different vs the M3?  I'm curious if it had a different engine/armor/speed...  Though I'm thinking it's a coading thing, I may be wrong. :headscratch:  Help?
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2011, 06:52:21 AM »
I would wish for a Yak remodel but I'm afraid they'd take away the lovely views. ;)


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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2011, 08:01:35 AM »
Go, Baby, Go!

So place your bets...what will be next to be remodeled?

Panzer
C.202
M16
B-26
LVTA2
Yak 9T
M8
Yak 9U
B5N
Ju-88
Ju-87
Lancaster
Ki-67

And I KNOW I'm forgetting a plane or two... :rolleyes:  But I'm certain that someone will post what else is in dire need of remodel. :aok

With the M16, why did they not have the quad 50's as an option when the M3 came out?  Was it that much different vs the M3?  I'm curious if it had a different engine/armor/speed...  Though I'm thinking it's a coading thing, I may be wrong. :headscratch:  Help?

Logic would lean towards the Panzer IV H due to the volume in which it is used.  I hope it gets a remodel and that the update gives it the due it has coming.  For some reason, I feel as if it takes a back seat to the M4A3/76mm, and it shouldn't in any way shape or form, aside from some small armor differences. 
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Re: New LVTA4
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2011, 08:50:43 AM »
damn,another re model.I'd like to see the M-18 and a German heavy fighter or bomber be added

I'd rather see current models updated to current standards before new stuff is added.
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