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Offline Krupinski

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2011, 06:36:15 PM »
When I fly, (I'm taking private pilot lessons) turbulence moves me up and down yes, but some times he will get pushed right or left.

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2011, 07:12:27 PM »
I wish my parents had $10,000 easily accessible.
It's not that much...
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2011, 09:25:51 PM »
Depends on where you live. I'm with you, Krupinski. barely enough for groceries :(

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2011, 10:01:45 AM »
Physically possible and trained for are two entirely separate things.  I know of one case in which a Mossie VI was attacking a German airfield and the pilot pulled it to tight and stalled it violently at low altitude.  The stick was yanked out of his hand and the Mossie was upside down at what his navigator said was 10ft, though I'd guess more like 50ft, and he recovered it.  All sorts of stuff happened that pilots weren't trained for.

True, but you are talking about an accidental stall vs intentionally stall fighting at that altitude.  In either case, there is only so far simulation can go.
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2011, 02:32:23 PM »
True, but you are talking about an accidental stall vs intentionally stall fighting at that altitude.  In either case, there is only so far simulation can go.
It still looks like you're conflating what was physically possible for the aircraft to do with what they actually did due to pilot training and self preservation and expecting HTC to limit players to the second somehow.
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2011, 03:26:14 PM »
See rule #4
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 04:22:29 PM by hitech »
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2011, 04:40:31 PM »
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2011, 04:55:13 PM »
Same thing as stall fighting 100 feet off the ground.  I don;t think that was part of WWII pilot training.
True, but you are talking about an accidental stall vs intentionally stall fighting at that altitude.  In either case, there is only so far simulation can go.

While I agree flight models can only be "so true" to reality, you're confusing PRACTICE (I mean how something is used, not "practice makes perfect") with POTENTIAL (I mean physics allows it).

The soviets pretty much earned half their kills at treetop levels. I know many others did too.

And then there's always the story of Ta152s and Tempests stall fighting over the trees at the end of the war, the Ta152 pushing the Tempest to turn tighter and tighter until he snap stalled and crashed without time to recover because they were so low.


So while I agree with the general comment, I disagree with the notions behind it.

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2011, 05:34:28 PM »
That tempest pilot turned the wrong direction for most of the fight.

He reversed near the end but it was too late.

Not sure it would have mattered.

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2011, 08:36:10 AM »
While I agree flight models can only be "so true" to reality, you're confusing PRACTICE (I mean how something is used, not "practice makes perfect") with POTENTIAL (I mean physics allows it).

The soviets pretty much earned half their kills at treetop levels. I know many others did too.

And then there's always the story of Ta152s and Tempests stall fighting over the trees at the end of the war, the Ta152 pushing the Tempest to turn tighter and tighter until he snap stalled and crashed without time to recover because they were so low.


So while I agree with the general comment, I disagree with the notions behind it.

It was just an example to show how games are different from real life. 
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