new toy for me

[CAP1]

Ive fired various AK models during my time spent with friends down at fort knox, and i just feel the gun isent anything real special. and it relies too much on its "i never jam" slogan to sell.

I found the m16 to be more accurate,easier to handle,better sights,looks cooler, and wasent as heavy.

idk, i just prefer tha m16, and think the AK is not what everyone makes it out to be. But thats just me a guess. 

i'm not a big aficionado, but if i recall, the ak was never intended to be accurate. their reasoning, was get as much lead downrange as fast as possible. if you're "sprayin n prayin", you don't need accurate.

 it did its job very well, much to the chagrin of many many americans.....and continues to do so to this day. i wouldn't mind owning one.

[katanaso]

You'll love it Becinhu. I love mine! Just get that wood refinished into something prettier!

(I was told on the forum I originally posted this on that toes were mandatory in every floor shot, lol)

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Hah.. Arfcom or Ak47.net?

Funny, I now expect every picture of a rifle on the floor to show toes.

[Tyrannis]

Ignorance is bliss

So having a personal opinion on a subject that doesn't match your own opinion makes the other person ignorant?

might want to rethink that logic  

ya but it never jams(mostly true, poor ammo will make it jam).....I have family that was in Vietnam,  a lot of the guys dropped there 16's and picked up fallen AK's.

I have owned two AK's, Romanian versions (if my memory serves me correctly) and never have I held a better assault rifle, and I have fired a bunch of them.

in a combat situation you want a gun that works every time...and that is the AK-47

Thats the only major thing the AK has goin for it. It's accuracy on full auto is minimal to none.  and even with controlled burst you'll be able to hit something.  Not much use having a rifle that never jams but also cant hit anything.

IMO: If i was fighting in the desert? sure, give me an AK i guess.
But if i was in an urban enviroment? M16 all the way.    

[Nefarious]

Accuracy on Full Auto...   Have you shot a full auto AR? A lot of Army vets I have talked to only trust the AR on three round.

Full Auto is only meant for one thing... suppressive fire. It's funny how the new ARs are all moving to Gas Pistons... Perhaps Kalashnikov had it right?

[CAP1]

on full auto, all the accuracy you need, is that the lead goes away from you.

[Nefarious]

And for the urban environment aspect...

How often are you going to see a 100+ yard shot in an urban environment... Maybe from rooftop to rooftop but down on the street... house to house... alley to alley... sewer to sewer... Hand me an AK please.

[Karnak]

The AK-47/AK-74 are probably responsible for more deaths than any other weapon.  The things have been an absolute plague to sub-Saharan Africa rendering governments neigh worthless.

It does what it was meant to do very, very well.  Perhaps too well.

[Jayhawk]

The AK-47/AK-74 are probably responsible for more deaths than any other weapon.  The things have been an absolute plague to sub-Saharan Africa rendering governments neigh worthless.

It does what it was meant to do very, very well.  Perhaps too well.

Don't blame the tool for what the user does with it. 

[Karnak]

Don't blame the tool for what the user does with it. 

Can't realistically be separated.  It is a tool that enables African resistance movements, valid and invalid, to destabilize the region.  There is no moral judgment in that, it is simply a statement of fact.

[Melvin]

Can't realistically be separated.  It is a tool that enables African resistance movements, valid and invalid, to destabilize the region.  There is no moral judgment in that, it is simply a statement of fact.

If it wasn't firearms and explosives, they would use spears and clubs.

Civil unrest, dissent and third world countries go hand in hand.

AK's are sweet rifles. The newer '74's are quite nice.

[Jayhawk]

We can agree to disagree to avoid a rule 11.

That being said, calling the AK overrated because you shot it once and didn't like it is just silly.

[Spikes]

Ive fired various AK models during my time spent with friends down at fort knox, and i just feel the gun isent anything real special. and it relies too much on its "i never jam" slogan to sell.

I found the m16 to be more accurate,easier to handle,better sights,looks cooler, and wasent as heavy.

idk, i just prefer tha m16, and think the AK is not what everyone makes it out to be. But thats just me a guess.  

You are a retard.

[Tyrannis]

You are a retard.

excuse me, but unless youve ran your own personal tests instead of going by just what you read on the internet,then you have no ground to be calling someone who has a "retard"

kindly GTFO, if you will 

[Jayhawk]

excuse me, but unless youve ran your own personal tests instead of going by just what you read on the internet,then you have no ground to be calling someone who has a "retard"

kindly GTFO, if you will  

...and you've ran your own personal tests?  

"Good news guys, I just put 30 rounds through an AK-47 and can now speak for it's effectiveness over the past 60 years."

[SmokinLoon]

I too will jump on the "30rd magazine" bandwagon.  Nothing makes me cringe quicker than a nut shot and someone calling a detachable magazine a "banana clip".   

There is no such thing as a "precision" AK rifle, do not kid yourself.  All the attributes that make that rifle what it is lends against pinpoint accuracy.  With that being said it can still put round after round into a pie plate at 100 yards if the shooter is trained well enough and is not under stress.  Full auto is for the movies, especially with an AKM in 7.62x39 caliber.    

BTW, the O/P got a good buy.