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New Desk
« on: July 30, 2011, 06:58:38 PM »
Well gentlemen I have a new desk coming soon it is in the process of being built by one of our own AH'ers and friend Haxxor. I will post pics as I get them and here is the very beginning of it.I wanted to have a desk that will support my triple monitor setup and give me some room.

Once again thank you Haxxor

This is the top of it


2nd one is a little blurry but it shows relative size of desk


This one shows the detail of the molding he is putting on it.


I can't wait to see it when it is finished and I will post more pics here if Haxxor doesnt beat me to it.

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Re: New Desk
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 12:40:34 AM »
Looks like Haxxor's got some skillz.  Always good to see this sort of thing.   :aok
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 01:41:42 AM »
Heh I like the 'kid that daddy dragged out from shower for his stupid pictures' :)
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 09:35:05 AM »
ash top? if so, gonna look good when you get it polyurethaned up. no sharp corners adds to the spice. looks good so far!
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 11:10:32 AM »
ash top? if so, gonna look good when you get it polyurethaned up. no sharp corners adds to the spice. looks good so far!

Well I asked to have the top a high gloss black and I am having the rest a golden oak. If I remember right I am going with a semi gloss finish. similar to this picture.



This is what some of his work looks like finished. I know this project will come out great.

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Re: New Desk
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 11:52:57 AM »
ash top? if so, gonna look good when you get it polyurethaned up. no sharp corners adds to the spice. looks good so far!

Actually it's birch trimmed with poplar. The picture that EB (AKA Feralpig) posted is the exact same wood and stain combination. The finish is going to done with lacquer, gloss for the top and semi-gloss on the lower portions. The lacquer provides a much harder and durable finish than polyurethane does.

The desk will have some game specific features but I will save that info for your viewing pleasure when I have it closer to completion.

Thanks for the compliments. I too am eager to see how it comes out when finished.
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 12:18:26 PM »
Sanding sealer.

I agree with doing the top a solid color with that wood for my own tastes. For me that type of grain just looks kinda funky with a stained type finish.

If your going black on top. Why not just black Formica it. It'll withstand spills better, provide a smoother looking finish, and be easier to clean.

Just a suggestion.
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 12:36:32 PM »
Really it comes down to preference and to clarify things a little, the top will be stained black with the lacquer finish which will consist of sealing it with the sanding sealer first then 2 coats of lacquer. This will still leave the grain visible though it will take a bit of lighting to see it and with the lacquer it will resist liquids quite well.

Personally I don't really like the Solid colors in Formica they tend to show scratches just as easily and is just about as easy to scratch. The other thing is the top is made from a birch plywood which will increase the strength compared to solid wood where as using Formica would involve using pressboard to avoid voiding any warranty that may come with it and that would actually make the top weaker.

Also one thing that is not visible in pictures is That plywood is what's known as rotary cut and with birch it (in the right light) provides almost a reflective appearance. It really is kind of wild.
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 06:11:47 PM »
dk, ifi may make one suggestion good sir... I noticed in FeralPigs picture of the finish of your piece on the trim you can see the wood filler for the trim head nails rather easily... IF you can get your hands on some, use Brads. they have a smaller head, which means its harder to detect them when wood ifiller is put over the heads.  :rock

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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 06:16:50 PM »
Absolutely it comes down to preferance. Sorry if I came off sounding over critical. Just not my cup of tea. Though the black stain and laquer might not look too bad.

Guy I know that builds countertops and cabinets for a hospital I used to work at as well as for peoples homes always uses the birch plywood under his formica for exactly the strength reason you mention. Also in a hospital your limited as to what kinds of stuff your allowed to use because of possible contamination. Pressboard Im guessing would just simply be too porous.  While Im no expert in the field of cabinet and countertop making. I dont see why it would void any warranty
He makes some real nice stuff. but. He has every tool you can imagine at his disposal which always helps lol
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 06:23:01 PM »
dk, ifi may make one suggestion good sir... I noticed in FeralPigs picture of the finish of your piece on the trim you can see the wood filler for the trim head nails rather easily... IF you can get your hands on some, use Brads. they have a smaller head, which means its harder to detect them when wood ifiller is put over the heads.  :rock



Brads are the way to go if you have a brad nailer. Well worth the investmant and wish I had bought one years before I did.
For filler for stained stuff I used the pre colored putty to match the finish as opposed to the wood filler which never seems to take the stain well more often then not comming out much too light.
I've even used plain old spackle as a filler with medium and darker stains and had it either damn near match when wiping stain over it. or look like just another small knot in the wood. and its a ton easier to sand then wood filler.
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 06:34:45 PM »
Brads are the way to go if you have a brad nailer. Well worth the investmant and wish I had bought one years before I did.
For filler for stained stuff I used the pre colored putty to match the finish as opposed to the wood filler which never seems to take the stain well more often then not comming out much too light.
I've even used plain old spackle as a filler with medium and darker stains and had it either damn near match when wiping stain over it. or look like just another small knot in the wood. and its a ton easier to sand then wood filler.
My dad is a carpenter, and iv have woodshop in school, i go nuts when im doing trim at school with trim head nails and seeing the big gaping heads. as for the stain, deffinitly using colored putty is the way to go.
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 10:10:28 PM »
Absolutely it comes down to preferance. Sorry if I came off sounding over critical. Just not my cup of tea. Though the black stain and laquer might not look too bad.

Guy I know that builds countertops and cabinets for a hospital I used to work at as well as for peoples homes always uses the birch plywood under his formica for exactly the strength reason you mention. Also in a hospital your limited as to what kinds of stuff your allowed to use because of possible contamination. Pressboard Im guessing would just simply be too porous.  While Im no expert in the field of cabinet and countertop making. I dont see why it would void any warranty
He makes some real nice stuff. but. He has every tool you can imagine at his disposal which always helps lol

No need to appologize, I didn't take your comments as critical at all. I was merely explaining why I wasn't recommending using the Formica for this type of project.

I recently re-purposed some plywood that had Formica attached to it and the Formica peeled right off like it was never attached and that is why it is not the common material anymore. I actually am using a big piece of it as my work table because it the Formica came off so clean. I realize that some might still be using but I know that the person that supplies the cabinet shop that I work out of told him that they would not warranty anything that was not on the pressboard. The fact that the pressboard is porous is actually it's benefit. It absorbs the adhesive and allows it to grab on to the wood where as the plywood is so smooth and generally not as absorbant and the adhesive does not hold as well. I have assisted with several countertop construction projects and the one thing I am sure of is that contact adhesive is about the most odd thing to work with, it is extremely difficult to get used to the idea that you need to let the adhesive dry before putting your pieces together.

Good catch there Mason. I actually do usually use brads for trimming these projects but thosee pieces of trimm were 1 1/2 inches wide and brads for the brad gun just don't come that long. I have also located a really good putty now that is made by Timbermate out of (I believe) Australia, which takes stain just like wood and most people would never see the difference. Those holes were just covered by glue and sawdust which is why they don't blend well. I really just did it quick to get the wife off my backside and I knew she would not care about or even notice them.

My shop is very small and every tool is small enough to be able to pick them up to move them around. The size is about 12'x14'. I actually had to build a sliding shelf off my work bench just so I could have my jointer and tablesaw up at the same time to avoid having to switch them back and forth so often. You would not believe how a big project like this confines my space.

Here is the filler that I have tested and found to be the best so far. We have used a sample of the natural from the manufacturer and used it on red oak and you could barely see the repair after we stained it, and we knew where to look. If you do any woodworking, I highly recommend this product. Plus it's water based and even if it dries out you just mix a little water with it and it's good to go again.

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Re: New Desk
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 10:44:17 PM »


Good catch there Mason. I actually do usually use brads for trimming these projects but thosee pieces of trimm were 1 1/2 inches wide and brads for the brad gun just don't come that long. I have also located a really good putty now that is made by Timbermate out of (I believe) Australia, which takes stain just like wood and most people would never see the difference. Those holes were just covered by glue and sawdust which is why they don't blend well. I really just did it quick to get the wife off my backside and I knew she would not care about or even notice them.



how much hold do you like when you shoot something with brads? I know my dad has and can get more 2" brads, and maybe 2 1/2", im not sure though. if you go to a hardware store and they dont carry them any larger then 1 1/2" ask if you can special order some 2 or (if they can get them) 2 1/2" brads. In all rewality assuming you glue your pieces before you put them on they shouldnt go anywhere if the trim isnt being beat on with a half inch of brad in them. shoot it every 10 or 12 inches tops and (i doubt im telling you much) you would be amazed at the strength of those "flimsy" brads.

just food for thought,  :cheers:
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Re: New Desk
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 11:01:10 PM »
Those trim pieces on that sample pic were 1 1/2 inches already and I think my brad gun only goes to 2" and since it was the top of a cabinet that I knew was going to have to take some abuse I wanted to have a little more than 5/8 to 3/4 into the plywood. Feralpig's though got the brads since those pieces were only 1/2 inch wide. That allowed me to use 1 1/2" brads to hold it tight until the glue can set up. I really like to have as much staying power to my fasteners when putting them into the ends of plywood since it is not particularly strong there.

Just my preference. I am sure it will hold better than I give credit for but I am an "over builder" (as my wife's uncle puts it) by nature and build everything for long life.
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