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Offline Midway

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For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« on: July 30, 2011, 07:47:44 PM »
Not close to a HO and not a cheap shot.  IMHO.







No need to respond.  Just wanted to post for the lazy one.

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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 07:50:01 PM »
Nope not even close to cheap, nice shot.

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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2011, 07:52:47 PM »
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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2011, 07:56:33 PM »
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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 08:09:28 PM »
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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2011, 08:12:11 PM »
I promise you next i will pull over then going up after 2nd merge and shoot you like you did me...................

As you can see i was going up instead of pulling over to get ho shot. So I learned the Midway will take the cheap shot anytime.....
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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2011, 08:17:31 PM »
Looks like a frontal D to me.  What is cheap?



I promise you next i will pull over then going up after 2nd merge and shoot you like you did me...................

As you can see i was going up instead of pulling over to get ho shot. So I learned the Midway will take the cheap shot anytime.....
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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2011, 08:29:47 PM »
I promise you next i will pull over then going up after 2nd merge and shoot you like you did me...................

As you can see i was going up instead of pulling over to get ho shot. So I learned the Midway will take the cheap shot anytime.....

honestly, that wasn't a cheap shot at all.  It was a perfectly legitimate angle that he took the shot on, regardless of your maneuvering intentions, you presented a perfectly good shot opportunity.  The only thing Midway can really be faulted on is the shot grouping, but he's flying a with wing mounted guns so he probably is hitting out of his convergence.

Without the film, would be hard to say what you did wrong but from the screenshots and your own description, it looks like he was able to get under you on the initial merge and used more of a climbing turn instead of going vertical like you did.  By going under, he'll be in position to get an angle on you as you went vertical for the 2nd Immelman.  It's a counter for a merge when the other bandit is going to go vertical immediately after the merge.

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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2011, 08:53:27 PM »
A film would be helpful for a proper discussion. Based on what I see here Lazy gave you a perfect profile of his airplane which made it an easy shot. Lazy, for future references I recommend you roll 90° in order to make yourself a much smaller target.
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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2011, 09:00:35 PM »
I promise you next i will pull over then going up after 2nd merge and shoot you like you did me...................

As you can see i was going up instead of pulling over to get ho shot. So I learned the Midway will take the cheap shot anytime.....

In the first screen shot, your plane should be rotated 90 degrees and you should be pulling upwards for a rope, not coming nose downward at midway showing him your full profile.  That cannot be disputed.  If you didn't have enough E to rope him, then you got dominated in angles previously to the screen captures.  That is really all there is to it, with no disrespect intended, just the truth of the matter.

Edit: Looking at the speeds you were roughly 30 mph faster FBlazy, you should have easily been able to twist your plane 90 degree and rope him.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2011, 09:03:37 PM by grizz441 »

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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2011, 09:01:48 PM »
Note the P38 in icon range.  Makes me want to end this fight a little faster.  I took shots when I could as long as he did not have guns on me.

But even without the P38 there, I would have done the same.

I really didn't want to make a big deal out of this one.  Just wanted FBLazy1 to see how he looked to me at the point I fired.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2011, 09:16:08 PM by Midway »


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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2011, 10:11:10 PM »
I go with, "Just because you're in your up view doesn't make it a HO."

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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2011, 11:18:06 PM »
I sure hope we don't have to go through this every time it comes up for you Midway.
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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2011, 11:37:35 PM »
I sure hope we don't have to go through this every time it comes up for you Midway.


Me too.  I just wanted him to see it  :ahand and posting it here was my first thought.  Had no question and needed no response.  I do appreciate the feedback though but don't want to waste anyone's time.   :)

 :headscratch: I guess I could have just told him to look at my photo bucket site.  Oh well, learned for next time - just thought of that.



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Re: For FBLazy1, no question on this one.
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2011, 11:46:30 PM »
You know better for next time Tangzu   :aok


 :headscratch: I guess I could have just told him to look at my photo bucket site.  Oh well, learned for next time - just thought of that.


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