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Offline Raphael

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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2011, 12:53:54 PM »
well actually yes THAT is my wish, but im out of ideas for more basic commands, IF you like you could post yours. what i can think of that would not be SO confuse is "yes" and "no".
i dont know maybe: "bombers" and then "high"
                           "fighters"
etc
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2011, 12:54:42 PM »
Why don't we have a Range Text?  We have Range VOX.

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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2011, 12:57:03 PM »
lol and thats what i thout the "local" was for and thats what made the entire confusion and well gave the idea so its pretty much 2 wishes in one, +1 for the range text
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2011, 01:09:53 PM »
Sounds like you are asking for pregenerated vox commands?  like our "check 6"

Why not just use vox, isnt that kinda the same concept :headscratch:

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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2011, 07:53:23 PM »
Sounds like you are asking for pregenerated vox commands?  like our "check 6"

Why not just use vox, isnt that kinda the same concept :headscratch:


Because as he stated earlier, not everyone can use vox. sometimes the wife and kids are sleeping and if you open your mouth the wife will be telling you to get your bellybutton back to bed. Even punching the keyboard as you are typing is enough to get you caught sometimes.


im out of ideas for more basic commands, IF you like you could post yours. what i can think of that would not be SO confuse is "yes" and "no".
i dont know maybe: "bombers" and then "high"
                           "fighters"
etc

Well you are right, it would have to stay pretty simple unless they want to write a bunch of code that would likely see little use. But I don't believe any of it would be difficult.

I think they could program it so that you could padlock an enemy vehicle or aircraft and then hit the command for "mark" (as in mark this target) The computer would generate a generic location like "enemy armor at my 9 0clock" or "off my left wing"

Now that call would be in relation the pilot who called it, and it would be up to those in the area to pay attention to where his left wing is.

So some basics would be something like these

- "copy that check 6"
- "thanks for the check 6"
- "bandits 9 oclock high"
- "armor at this location"
- "I'm returning to base"
- "Tally Ho"
- "bandit on my six"
- "you are clear"

It's a good idea Raph. I guarantee anyone with a Saitek x52 has plenty of available spots to put all of these commands and then some. And if I am not mistaken, the AH control mapping allows you to program 4 modes to any stick. Not sure about that, I never tried it.

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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2011, 10:39:18 PM »
ah cool, thats what i was talking about! situations like those  :D
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2011, 02:33:07 AM »
which brings back to the reason he posted the wish to begin with.  he's talking about people not reading the text buffer. so then why bother with the extra messages? 

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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2011, 07:56:45 AM »
the check 6 is a directed communication keyboard command that triggers an audio file only the person it's meant for can hear. the audible version of ".p joepilot check six". since a person needs to be in icon range and within your field of view to receive a check 6 call, how would you propose a response would work? how would you suggest a reply be sent to the person who gave you the check 6 call, automatic when you hit the key or like the check 6 call have to locate them in your fov then hit the key?


how would this stuff work, everyone within icon range get the message at the same time? directed to an individual like the check 6 call? both?
- "copy that check 6"
- "thanks for the check 6"
- "bandits 9 oclock high"
- "armor at this location"
- "I'm returning to base"
- "Tally Ho"
- "bandit on my six"
- "you are clear"
imagine the lametards hitting keys just to spam that stuff for no better reason than they think it's something fun to do at the time...no thanks.

if your living situation has your computer in a place where the person(s) you live with will be disturbed by the sound of your voice or the keyboard while they are trying to sleep or watch tv, then you should seriously consider moving the computer to another room or go to bed yourself.
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2011, 09:55:44 AM »
within the icon range it would work the same way, and to responses why not code it so it would be ".r copy that" what i had in mind is exactly like the check six, and i don't see people abusing the check six, i dont think they would abuse the other commands.

also, semp, what calls the attention of the check six is the sound, and since some people can't use the vox all the time, why not have more of these sounds for comunication purposes? like you see in many FPS games and other quick action games when you need fast comunication.
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2011, 11:31:02 AM »
which brings back to the reason he posted the wish to begin with.  he's talking about people not reading the text buffer. so then why bother with the extra messages?  

semp

I dont think the ONLY reason he posted this is because people dont read text. It is also becuse its a pain in the bellybutton to try and type a response to a check six in the middle of combat. Or any thing else for that matter. And these are not text responses he is talking about, they verbal responses just like the check 6.


the check 6 is a directed communication keyboard command that triggers an audio file only the person it's meant for can hear. the audible version of ".p joepilot check six". since a person needs to be in icon range and within your field of view to receive a check 6 call, how would you propose a response would work? how would you suggest a reply be sent to the person who gave you the check 6 call, automatic when you hit the key or like the check 6 call have to locate them in your fov then hit the key?

The check 6 response doesnt need to be nor should it be directed at only one person. How many times has more than one person checked you at the same time. We use vox to respond on open channel, why would we want or need to reply to each and every person. It should be responded to on range so that everyone who checked can hear it whether it's one or more.

imagine the lametards hitting keys just to spam that stuff for no better reason than they think it's something fun to do at the time...no thanks.

Right, because they cant do that with the check 6 now.


 
if your living situation has your computer in a place where the person(s) you live with will be disturbed by the sound of your voice or the keyboard while they are trying to sleep or watch tv, then you should seriously consider moving the computer to another room or go to bed yourself.

If your living situation is so pathetic that you have nothing better to do than to bash ideas you dont have the intellect to understand, then troll the forums bashing ideas you dont have the intellect to understand.

Oh wait... :bolt:
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2011, 11:33:50 AM »
Muzik, he is not trolling, that was an honest question on how it would work.
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2011, 11:43:28 AM »
Muzik, he is not trolling, that was an honest question on how it would work.

No, what he posted up to the last paragraph were honest questions. His last paragraph was an inconsiderate dung wad falling out of his mouth.

And since he so graciously pointed out that HTC doesnt have to pander to peoples living situations, I vote that HTC upgrade the graphics because we shouldnt have to wait for gyqene to afford something more than the walmart PC.
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2011, 01:51:55 PM »
No, what he posted up to the last paragraph were honest questions. His last paragraph was an inconsiderate dung wad falling out of his mouth.

And since he so graciously pointed out that HTC doesnt have to pander to peoples living situations, I vote that HTC upgrade the graphics because we shouldnt have to wait for gyqene to afford something more than the walmart PC.
actually my last paragraph was neither a troll nor a dung wad falling from anywhere, it was a direct "move your computer to another room, moron" statement for those who may not have thought of the obvious. if your significant other is disturbed by your use of the built in voice communications system while trying to sleep, then one of you is in the wrong room.

now address the question if you're genetically capable of forming an intelligent reply. check 6 reply, as raphael pointed out could work the same as a .r command would, directed at the last person who private messaged you. would take a bit more programming to address multiple people, assuming it didn't muck something else up.

as for a range message that verbalizes something like "<name a plane> down", with the large number of aircraft in the lineup how would something like that work? some fancy programming that determines what type of plane you're shooting at and automatically fills in the blank just in case you might want to make the announcement? or maybe a dropdown list for a person to choose from? kind of a waste of time considering voice comms is already built in and can be mapped to any button on your joystick.

considering the juvenile mentality that is heavily prevalent from people of all ages, what does anyone seriously think would happen if there was a programmable keyboard command to announce "tally ho" or "you are clear", especially if custom sounds can be used? i've seen it happen in other games, there is always someone who has nothing better to do than annoy other people and if you give them a way to do it they will.
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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 02:06:54 PM »
From my experiences in the arena, we need a "check 12" call.

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Re: more then just check six call
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 03:19:50 PM »
actually my last paragraph was neither a troll nor a dung wad falling from anywhere, it was a direct "move your computer to another room, moron" statement for those who may not have thought of the obvious. if your significant other is disturbed by your use of the built in voice communications system while trying to sleep, then one of you is in the wrong room.

I understood your meaning behind the statement completely, it was Raph that misjudged your lack of respect. Thank you for proving my point. And the irony of you of all people calling someone else a moron is STAGGERING! So let me answer your questions once again so that you wont hurt yourself trying to figure it out.

check 6 reply, as raphael pointed out could work the same as a .r command would, directed at the last person who private messaged you. would take a bit more programming to address multiple people, assuming it didn't muck something else up.

Yes it COULD, but #1  you still cant seem to grasp the concept of the reply being routed to the range channel. There is NO "programming to address multiple people" and NO "mucking" anything up. IT PLAYS ON RANGE CHANNEL. PERIOD #2 It would not be any easier to route it to a single person than it would to route it to the range channel. We are talking about maybe 1 line of code. #3 What difference does it make if everyone on range channel hears a reply that is not specifically directed at them? They hear the same stuff all the time. #4 As I said before it is more beneficial to put it on range than try to address a single person because if more than one person gives a check 6, a reply of "thanks for the check" or "copy check" does not have to be issued several different times.

as for a range message that verbalizes something like "<name a plane> down", with the large number of aircraft in the lineup how would something like that work? some fancy programming that determines what type of plane you're shooting at and automatically fills in the blank just in case you might want to make the announcement? or maybe a dropdown list for a person to choose from? kind of a waste of time considering voice comms is already built in and can be mapped to any button on your joystick.

Because you dont seem to pay attention to who said what, I said NOTHING about a command that said "<name a plane> down." But for your information, it would not be exceedingly difficult for them to program it so that when you padlock an object of any kind it is automatically identified in a text or voice message. The only problem with that is they would have to have a recording for each and every aircraft or object. I NEVER advocated this and I think Raph only used it as an example off the top of his head. He never suggested he had all the answers or THAT particular command was a MUST HAVE. It was just an example. So pay attention to what people are saying, ask if you dont understand, or stay out of it.

considering the juvenile mentality that is heavily prevalent from people of all ages, what does anyone seriously think would happen if there was a programmable keyboard command to announce "tally ho" or "you are clear", especially if custom sounds can be used? i've seen it happen in other games, there is always someone who has nothing better to do than annoy other people and if you give them a way to do it they will.

Do you REALLY have that little lack of understanding of how this game works? Custom sounds are ONLY heard on your own computer. NO ONE else hears them but you, so how do you figure this even matters? The only sounds we are talking about here are EXACTLY like a check 6 except with a different message. If someone wants to use obnoxious custom sounds, he wont be bothering anyone but himself.

And for the last frkn time, if someone wants to annoy anyone in the game by hitting a command he can check 6 you until his heart is content or a mod gives him the boot, so what is the difference?

If HTC wants to stop that kind of thing they can program it so that excessive, repeated commands would get the user muted or booted.

Now is there anything else you dont understand?
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