London Violence

[Dragon]

Looks to me the only noble cause they are reflecting is they want to steal. http://video.foxnews.com/v/1100354840001/out-of-control-rioters-captured-on-cell-phone-video

That guys phone and this thread are racist, if it doesn't stop, I'm leaving.

[grizz441]

Rioters should be shot.  Period.

[Steve]

Being a Londoner I can tell you conclusively that this is about poor kids wanting a free pair of Nike trainers and some new bling...

Some of them are still getting free shoes

[Wobbly]

Well supposedly there will be 15,000 police available in London tonight compared to 5,000 last night so hopefully the scumbags will take note and pack it in, if they don't then hopefully they will get a few sore heads.

Around 500 arrested so far, 100 charged and they are being charged for committing offences in a riot so they are going to Crown Court where sentences will be tougher. On the radio tonight they said that a surprising number had jobs, not all the underpriveleged, unemployed and socially deprived that the excuse makers would have us believe. Police have loads of cctv and pictures, a lot of them will be caught, quite a few have already been caught from twitter and facebook rantings.

[dedalos]

I'm talking about the riots in England ... not sure what Greece has to do with it. or China, or Poland or India. The pictures of rioters in England have mostly been of one race. Whether you think my mind is open or not doesnt matter either. The facts are what they are. It's not my doing and I'm not voicing any personal opinions about who is responsible.

Edit: I've been told from people there that some of the muslim community is involved as well. Could be heresay.  Of course, I wouldn't be surprised to see that uniquely Brit class of rioters involved, the "anarchists"

Yes, the facts are what they are.  And the facts are that riots are not caused by a certain race (that is why the examples of the other countries).  But, don;t let any facts stop you.  Use your own 

[dedalos]

Ah, yes, but someone with a solid income does stand to lose. 

What is he going to lose if as you stated he knows he will get away with it?  I am confused.

[dedalos]

Rioters should be shot.  Period.

Yes, that will fix it for sure    There will be no more violence if the government comes out shooting.  That has worked through out history 

[Major Biggles]

Sorry Coombs, I live so far out in the woods that cellular internet is all I get so I won't view the vid. 60mps in less than two weeks, though!

It's a pretty hairy vid of 10 coppers suddenly getting rushed by 100 yobs...

[Rich52]

I feel bad for the coppers. They know they are being filmed and all they have to do is bang some kid on the head to hard and the Govt. will hang them to appease the masses. 111 hurt already, some of them bad from the thrown objects.
My  for the Police over there trying to save lives and property from these knuckleheads.

[Steve]

Yes, the facts are what they are.  And the facts are that riots are not caused by a certain race (that is why the examples of the other countries).  But, don;t let any facts stop you.  Use your own 

Easy there, fantasy boy. I didn't say any race was causing anything.  All I said was, all the pictures(from early parts of riot) I've seen show predominantly one race, and thus it has to be about race.. at least one of the factors. Now, the fact that it is race related doesn't mean that the source isn't socioeconomic, but to deny that the rioters were initially predominantly black is just plain disingenuous for the sake of PC

That's the only fact I stated. You are making assumptions without information.

[grizz441]

Yes, that will fix it for sure    There will be no more violence if the government comes out shooting.  That has worked through out history 

It will stop those who are rioting from rioting because you can't riot very well after you have been shot.

[PJ_Godzilla]

What is he going to lose if as you stated he knows he will get away with it?  I am confused.

I stated that about the rioters - see Biggles post. These people are dependent, lawless, and completely adrift. You attempt to state that someone who is not will receive equal treatment. Now I'm confused.

[coombz]

Sorry Coombs, I live so far out in the woods that cellular internet is all I get so I won't view the vid. 60mps in less than two weeks, though!

  no worries

what i was intending the vid to illustrate is that a lot of the rioters are white

[dedalos]

Easy there, fantasy boy. I didn't say any race was causing anything.  All I said was, all the pictures(from early parts of riot) I've seen show predominantly one race, and thus it has to be about race.. at least one of the factors. Now, the fact that it is race related doesn't mean that the source isn't socioeconomic, but to deny that the rioters were initially predominantly black is just plain disingenuous for the sake of PC

That's the only fact I stated. You are making assumptions without information.

I apologize.  I now understand that you did not say it was any race causing anything.  You just said that it has to be about race or at list you made sure you pointed out it was one specific race and that it is race related.  How uninformed of me.  

Do I need to bold your text or will you be able to find the above in your quote on your own?  And btw, the few pictures you have seen could or could not represent all the rioters.  You make the choice to assume that they do, but you really don;t know.  If the pictures only had white people in them, would say it was race related?

[PJ_Godzilla]

Yes, that will fix it for sure    There will be no more violence if the government comes out shooting.  That has worked through out history 

Law and order does tend to work pretty well. You make it out like this is Ptersburg and Czarist troops are mowing down starving indigents. Ded, this isn't Selma. I don't understand your attempt to imply just cause on this.