Are the Brits being 'dissed ?

[Rich52]

Why no Brit designed tanks in the game ? In the Africa, ME, and Euro theater the Brits were a huge tank player, and often on their own. Why not the A-34 Comet ? Certainly a tank that could run with anything in the game, and sporting the deadly 17lb'er. Even the Crusader-lll would be an interesting addition. Yes I know it had light armor and only a 6lb main gun, but it was fast and the 6lb gun, be it on a tank or an ATG, could not be ignored by an enemy. It could be a fine perk farmer with a high enough eny. For that matter a Soviet breakthru tank like the IS-2 would be nice too.

Dont get me wrong. If a year ago I was asked what two new tanks would generate the most excitement in the game, and even tho Im not much a tanker, I would have said the Panther and the Tiger-2. Maybe now it would be nice to see some other gaps filled too. 

Oh, and we need another Brit CV based plane too. 

[Tank-Ace]

Sherman VC Firefly is British.

Russians only have 1 more tank than the brits, US only has 1 more, Germany only has 3 more, Italy has no tanks, Japan has no tanks.


In general, the quality of british tanks wasn't great.

Matilda: slow as **** and with a 2lber squirt gun. That said, it had fair armor
Crusader: same 2lber squirt gun, weak armor, but faster
Valentine: thicker armor than the crusader, but slower, 6lber gun, no coaxil MG
Cromwell: thicker armor, but with a weak 75mm gun
Churchill: slow, weak gun in the versions with the thickest armor. Best bet would be a Mk III, which would be just slightly inferior to the Panzer IV.

[Karnak]

Comet wasn't bad as I recall.

[Tank-Ace]

Oh yes, the Comet. Forgot about that one. Wouldn't mind seeing it eventually, but would like to see more EW/MW additions first.

[Vudu15]

we could get one of the Crocodile churchhills with a flamethrower that would look cool. could burn the town down. 

[Ack-Ack]

Matilda and Matilda II would be a good additions.  I really don't consider the Firefly a British tank as it's just a modified Sherman.

ack-ack

[iron650]

+1 for the Churchill, Crusader III and Matilda

-1 for the Comet it only saw the crossing of the Rhine

[EagleDNY]

I'd rather see the British AEC armored car - only a 6 lb'er (57mm?) but would be a definite improvement vs the M8.

[Karnak]

-1 for the Comet it only saw the crossing of the Rhine

Me163.  Ta152H-1. Ar234.  Tiger II.

German units in AH don't seem limited by that.

[Tank-Ace]

Tiger II saw a little action in Normandy. Not disagreeing with you, just saying.

AKAK, the Matilda I had only a single machine. If you're desperate for a Matilda I, just up a tank and don't use the cannon  .

[Guppy35]

Tiger II saw a little action in Normandy. Not disagreeing with you, just saying.

AKAK, the Matilda I had only a single machine. If you're desperate for a Matilda I, just up a tank and don't use the cannon  .

Tiger II in Normandy?  I don't believe that one.  You have a source?

[SmokinLoon]

IMO, the best thing HTC could do is to introduce the Cromwell with choice of either 75mm or 6pdr gun.  The 75mm version would not offer anything the Sherman M4/75mm already offers except 5-6 more mph of speed, but the 6pdr version with mid to late war HVAP ammo could add an angle we do not currently have.  Or, maybe better yet add the Valentine tank with choice of 2 Pdr or 6 Pdr guns, then the EW and MW versions could be had easily.

[Tank-Ace]

IDK, even with HVAP, I think the Cromwell would merit an ENY 35. T-34/76 is about on par with the Panzer IV on paper, but the panzer kicks it's bellybutton in the game.

[Rich52]

Sherman VC Firefly is British.

The gun was British. The tank was Yank.

The Comet meets the criteria of inclusion in the game. It was in theater on a divisional level before the war ended and did see action.

Another possible would be the Daimler AC. A fast and useful scout with the fine 2lb'er on her.

[SmokinLoon]

IDK, even with HVAP, I think the Cromwell would merit an ENY 35. T-34/76 is about on par with the Panzer IV on paper, but the panzer kicks it's bellybutton in the game.

The Cromwell would have the speed (nearly) of the T34/76, similar armor (slightly in favor of the T34/76), and a much faster firing gun (both the 75mm and 6pdr had double to reload rate of the T34/76).  I dont think it would be any worse off than the T34/76, actually I think it would be better in AH due to how tanks are used.  For sure, the HE would be better and the AP capability would favor the Cromwell. 

The Panzer IV H has less armor for a tank typical of that size in WWII, remember it was originally designed to engage enemy infantry, not armor.  That is what the Panzer III was for.  Once it was armed with the 75mm Kw.K.40 L / 48 it became a force to be respected offensively, but it couldn't take the heat defensively like the Panther or Tiger.

On the charts, the Panzer IV's 75mm Kw.K.40 L / 48 AP capability performs right up there with (and in many cases superior to) the M4/76mm and T34/85.  It doesnt seem that way in the game though, I hope when the Panzer IV is updated everything is double checked, I dont think the Panzer IV is getting it's due offensively, imo.