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Offline Krusty

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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #90 on: August 29, 2011, 02:43:08 PM »
Quite so.

It was a fantasy ride. When it was introduced the planeset was a fraction of what we have now. It was pulling double duty by giving you weapons the K4 never had.

I'm rather glad it's more realistic now. Or, perhaps I should say "more historically accurate" because it is a game after all -- it's only as realistic as games can be.

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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2011, 10:00:27 AM »
I'd like to see it, but I am not sure it was that major a player.Me210 and Me410 were disappointments for the Luftwaffe and not many were built, less than 400 Me210s and about 1200 Me410s, per wikipedia.  In comparison, 5928 Beaufighters were built and it served in every theater and with many air forces from late 1940 through the end of the war.

The Me410 is a very nice looking aircraft and I'd like to see it added soon.  I voted for it after the Beaufighter was eliminated in the poll that got us the B-29, and I wasn't voting in a "Well, may as well click something." manner.Bah.  Doesn't count.  All that is needed for that is some slight graphical work on the P-38G model and a flight model.  Doesn't come close to the addition of a new fighter, nor does it count in my historical context as several P-38s are already in game.

only 1200 me410 isnt a argument against the introduse.
only 450 kingTigers were build ;-)

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« Reply #92 on: August 30, 2011, 10:51:46 PM »
only 1200 me410 isnt a argument against the introduse.
only 450 kingTigers were build ;-)

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No, it certainly is not an argument against adding it, nor was it intended to be.  It was an explanation of why I don't think it is one of the really historically significant units missing from AH, and I stand by that explanation.

I'd still like to see it added, but I can, and have, post a laundry list of things I'd like added.
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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #93 on: August 31, 2011, 09:18:06 AM »
I'd like to see the Yak-9UT added (perhaps when they give the existing Yaks a face lift). Same as 9U but with all-metal skin and other minor aerodynamic improvements. Gun options would be 2 x B-20 cannons and one of the following engine-mounted cannons: B-20, NS-23, N-37 or N-45. Entered service in early 1945.
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« Reply #94 on: August 31, 2011, 09:44:14 AM »
+1 but I think it'll be a scenario aircraft for the most part.

I think the Ki.44, Ki.100 or J2M would find more use in the LWA.   Any new Japanese fighter would be good by me.   Great pics, btw.

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« Reply #95 on: August 31, 2011, 01:12:03 PM »
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I'd like to see the Yak-9UT added (perhaps when they give the existing Yaks a face lift). Same as 9U but with all-metal skin and other minor aerodynamic improvements. Gun options would be 2 x B-20 cannons and one of the following engine-mounted cannons: B-20, NS-23, N-37 or N-45. Entered service in early 1945.

Kinda pushin' your luck there with something that arrived in 1945...you know how many were made/ served in squadron strength?  :headscratch:
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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2011, 01:40:09 PM »
UT is nice from a firepower perspective, but wasn't a major player IMO. What with the massive German retreat the emphasis was on more and more range, because these short-range fighters that only had to go so many miles to fight over their ground troops now had to go hundreds of miles over German terrain and back.

Yak-9D and/or Yak-9DD would be more appropriate for scenarios and events.



But I'm all for the 410, instead!  :banana:

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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #97 on: August 31, 2011, 01:46:35 PM »
you guys are such pansies. only REAL men like JUGS!!! P47-D22...:noid

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« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2011, 03:57:27 PM »
you guys are such pansies. only REAL men like JUGS!!! P47-D22...:noid
I don't think a new Yak-9 or P-47 really counts as a fully new fighter as they are just variants of existing fighters.
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« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2011, 04:11:29 PM »
I don't think a new Yak-9 or P-47 really counts as a fully new fighter as they are just variants of existing fighters.
what variant of a P47 do we have is a D22?

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« Reply #100 on: August 31, 2011, 04:45:43 PM »
I say we should all petition HTC to include a dual side-by-side "twins" release... no GVs necessary, no other planes, no revamps.. just put the effort into 2x twin-engined planes.

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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #101 on: August 31, 2011, 05:01:14 PM »
I respect that this is something many want.

How much value does it add? Even with two 12mm guns you are going to have to park behind the bad guy for a long time before you are going to kill him. It seems that it is manueverable enough to stay there but too risky to stay locked onto one target too long. Could it be why this plane did not see as extensive production and deployment?

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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2011, 05:10:07 PM »
I respect that this is something many want.

How much value does it add? Even with two 12mm guns you are going to have to park behind the bad guy for a long time before you are going to kill him. It seems that it is manueverable enough to stay there but too risky to stay locked onto one target too long. Could it be why this plane did not see as extensive production and deployment?

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Doesn't take that long.  Same guns as the cowl guns on the Ki-84.

Besides, there are no aircraft left to be added that will see mass use.
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Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #103 on: August 31, 2011, 05:12:22 PM »
Many AH pilots don't realize this because they spray and hope for 1-shot kills, but on non-explosive rounds (i.e. "bullets") the closer you get the stronger they hit. They fade and weaken as they travel downrange. They lose their kinetic punch. Firing a 30cal at 800 yards may hit but do no damage at all. Firing a 30cal at 100 yards is lethal.

2x12.7mm are more than dangerous if you get CLOSE enough. If you're in a situation where you CAN get close enough, it means the other guy is slow, and now you are in a much more manuverable plane and can stick on him like glue, killing him.

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« Reply #104 on: August 31, 2011, 06:39:06 PM »
Didn't the Japanese 12.7mm machine guns fire explosive bullets or something like that?  Seems I read somewhere they packed a bigger punch than a typical 12.7.