New fighters

[Tank-Ace]

OK, so the IAR-80 is anything but a LW 500mph monster, and neither is the G55. The G.55 was slightly superior to the 109 yeah, but not by THAT much.

Re.2005: I'm not really expecting it to be added, as I've said, I'm just hoping that HTC throws me a bone with this one.

Karnak, I'm just poking fun at your support for earlier planes such as the Ki-43 with mediocre preormance.

Determination: Never underestimate it

The Finns' determination got us that useless Brewster. So far we've done a grand total of 1 Special Event where the B239 was present. Aside from that we've just used it to fill in for the inferior F2A.

[Ack-Ack]

Why and the Re.2005 barely qualifies, depending on if you call "sqadron strength" multiple mixed squadrons.

There was less then 30 total built and never entered into production.  The ones that were built consisted of 2 prototypes and 27 pre-production models.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

The Finns' determination got us that useless Brewster. So far we've done a grand total of 1 Special Event where the B239 was present. Aside from that we've just used it to fill in for the inferior F2A.

You do know that the Brewster we have in the game is an F2A, correct?  It's the F2A-1.

ack-ack

[Tank-Ace]

Wait, so we have it incorrectly listed under the wiki pages? And I'm fairly certian even you've said we have the Finnish version in the game.


Even the "planes" page on the AH website has the Buffalo listed under the Finnland list.

[gyrene81]

Wait, so we have it incorrectly listed under the wiki pages? And I'm fairly certian even you've said we have the Finnish version in the game.


Even the "planes" page on the AH website has the Buffalo listed under the Finnland list.

     

here do some reading...

http://www.warbirdforum.com/buff.htm

learn up on it, f2a-1=b239, f2a-2=b339, f2a3=b239e & b439

[Ack-Ack]

Wait, so we have it incorrectly listed under the wiki pages? And I'm fairly certian even you've said we have the Finnish version in the game.

Nope, the Brewster is correctly listed in AHWiki and yes, I've said we have the Finnish version of the Brewster in game.  When the US was getting rid of the F2A-1s in the USN inventory and decided to give the surplus planes to the Finnish government, the F2A-1s that were being exported were given the export designation of B-239.

ack-ack

[Karnak]

you're right...

but that's a rare occurrence for you lately...any other time you're just railing against everything that isn't something you're interested in. to illustrate, one of your arguments against the the iar-80 was speed...

and yet the fairey firefly at 316mph...
or has there been some progression since that time?

I still have no idea what you are contesting.  It feels like you are arguing against a position I have never held.

[Raphael]

I don't think adding a "weaker" plane to the game is a waste or such... i know i would fly the iar, but if you guys say it didn't really figth in the war and such things you must be rigth, i really don't know for sure and can't trust wikipedia, if it didn't figth then i would agree to say no.
When i played Il2 1946 I use to love flying the IAR models i got owned all the time but still...

[gyrene81]

I don't think adding a "weaker" plane to the game is a waste or such... i know i would fly the iar, but if you guys say it didn't really figth in the war and such things you must be rigth, i really don't know for sure and can't trust wikipedia, if it didn't figth then i would agree to say no.
When i played Il2 1946 I use to love flying the IAR models i got owned all the time but still...

with all the references for the plane you're looking at wiki? it flew and it fought...for romania.

[Tank-Ace]

IAR was romanian. Fought from '41-'45.

[Karnak]

The IAR was the only plane on his list that was at all significant.

The Re.2005 was the one I was objecting to, though he says it was bait.

To be clear to Tank-Ace and gyrene81, there are both early and late war units I advocate for.  My typical range right now is something like Ki-43, Yak-1 through Ju188A-1, Me410, J2M3/J2M5 and Tu-2.  My criteria are a mixture of what is needed for historical purposes and what I think would do well in the MA or fill quasi holes in the MA.

[Tank-Ace]

Like I said, if HTC is fine with the multiple split squadrons thing  .......



Personally I couldn't care less if we get Ki-43, Yak-1, and the J2M. Granted they have some use in special events, and some limited prospects in the MA, buuhhuut I still don't really care. I won't fly them so I don't get anything but a new icon to shoot at.

Thats not to say I don't want them added eventually, I'd just prefer something thats significant and that I would use.

[Karnak]

I would use the Ju188 and J2Ms.  The Ki-43 I'd use occasionally.

Things left to be added, completely new airframe airplanewise, that might see noticeable MA usage, in my opinion:

A-26
B7A
Do217
He162
He177
G.55
J2M
Ju188
Ki-44
Ki-102
Meteor
SB2C
Tu-2

[Tank-Ace]

Did the meteor score any actually kills against a manned aircraft? Not just against V1's?


Asside from that, you might want to add the Me-410. If we got the BK-37 armed version, it would likely replace the Il-2 as the main GV buster.

[dj4592]

   OK someone REALLY needs to explain or better yet show me how the crap you killa tank with an IL2 or a Hurri mk IID.     yeah, i get that you can shoot the rockets at tanks and drop the bombs from the IL2 and get kills but how do you gun down a tank with 30 bullets from a hurri? even if you could keep it on target without missing a single shot or getting a face full of howitzer does it even do any damage to the heavier ones, i mean i can see it taking down a jeep or m3 or even an m8, ive been killed by 2d's in M8's before but against a Sherman or even a Panzer +? probly the wrong thread to post this on but just confused  LOL