Carrier bombers given drones

[Skyguns MKII]

whats the point to even up them off the deck if carrier fighters carry more ords and guns?

TBM - 6 rockets
       - 2000 lbs of bombs
       - 3 .50s
       - 1 .30

F4U-1D - 8 rockets being 2 more than the TBMs
            - As much lbs of bombs as the TBMS (2,000)
            - 6 .50s being twice that of the TBMs
            - overall higher speed than the tbm
 

The F4U-1D along with the F6F being the rather more common Naval fighters in the game already give the TBM and SBD and other bombers no chance what so ever and these are not even the best fighters out of the options, theres still perked planes. And even still against The large ENY planes like A6M2S and F4F's they still have little chance of survival. By giving the bombers drones i would imagine we would see much more activity with them do to the fact they would have more total ord than a single fighter and better defencive gunning than being single. Thoughts? Add ons? suggestions?

 

[stabbyy]

tbm only has 2 50 cals(in the front) so its x3 fire power but you make a good point only advantage a tbm has is the 4 500lb bombs to hit more single targets...but rarely is that called for

[tmetal]

+1 for drones for the B5N and TBM since both have bombsights. Other than that I don't see how drones for dive bombers would work all that well with the restricted flight abilities of the current drones; and before it gets suggested, no the drones shouldn't be able to maneuver as well as the lead plane. That would just lead to more whines about lancstukas and dog fighting bombers.

[Nathan60]

Beaten to it  by Tmetal

[shotgunneeley]

The thing with dive bombers is that your best defense in case of a fighter attack is try and evade them as best as possible until help arrives. If you had a formation of tbms, vals, sbds, etc., you're kind of tied in to staying level so as to not loose your drones making hard turns. +1 to formations for the level bombers (tbm, kate) though.

If you want to attack the enemy using dive bombers, then I'd suggest posting a mission to get more dive bombers and escort fighters giving you "strength in numbers" rather than attempting to accomplish your goals single handedly.

(Curse my slow typing!!!)

[Skyguns MKII]

+1 for drones for the B5N and TBM since both have bombsights. Other than that I don't see how drones for dive bombers would work all that well with the restricted flight abilities of the current drones; and before it gets suggested, no the drones shouldn't be able to maneuver as well as the lead plane. That would just lead to more whines about lancstukas and dog fighting bombers.

well it could work for SBDs if all you do is program it so they can keep with the lead plane in a dive. other than that keep it the same to counter the lancstuka whines. 6 30 cals are better than 2

[Krusty]

Bomb sight alone does not dictate formations.

Formations denote massive aerial formations that flew together and bombed cities en masse.

That does NOT apply to stukas, SBDs, Vals, and the like. Sorry, but no.

They do not equate, and I have to say frankly I'm saddened you think they SHOULD....

[Skyguns MKII]

Bomb sight alone does not dictate formations.

Formations denote massive aerial formations that flew together and bombed cities en masse.

That does NOT apply to stukas, SBDs, Vals, and the like. Sorry, but no.

They do not equate, and I have to say frankly I'm saddened you think they SHOULD....

so your saying at least 3 tbms or more never flew in a mission in formation? And why cant formantion be added to those planes? I mean heck look at the Boston 3

[tmetal]

All though I would still like to see formations for TBMs and B5Ns for the extra defense it would offer, krusty is right.    The way I look at it is B17s, B24s, Lancasters, etc...all flew in formation and dropped their bombs on the command of a lead bomber.  TBMs, B5Ns and dive bombers flew in formation for defensive needs but most of the time once they got to the target, each plane was responsible for dropping their own ord when they where ready.  That is the main reason for them not to get drone formations.

[Skyguns MKII]

All though I would still like to see formations for TBMs and B5Ns for the extra defense it would offer, krusty is right.    The way I look at it is B17s, B24s, Lancasters, etc...all flew in formation and dropped their bombs on the command of a lead bomber.  TBMs, B5Ns and dive bombers flew in formation for defensive needs but most of the time once they got to the target, each plane was responsible for dropping their own ord when they where ready.  That is the main reason for them not to get drone formations.

understood, be nice to see though, oh well

[Mystery]

Solution to problem: SB2C Helldiver

Well...kind of, anyway. The -4 variant is close, bombload-wise. And its 2 x 20mm would be a nice increase over the TBM's 2 x .50 cal

[Ack-Ack]

whats the point to even up them off the deck if carrier fighters carry more ords and guns?

Which is why during late 1944 until the end of the war, you saw more fighters being used in the attack role in the Pacific as they could carry just as much (if not more) ordnance than a dive bomber and stand much more chance of survival to and from the target.  The Helldiver was the last commissioned USN dive bomber just for those very reasons.

ack-ack

[Tank-Ace]

Bomb sight alone does not dictate formations.

Formations denote massive aerial formations that flew together and bombed cities en masse.

That does NOT apply to stukas, SBDs, Vals, and the like. Sorry, but no.

They do not equate, and I have to say frankly I'm saddened you think they SHOULD....

Japanese used the B5N as a light, land-based bomber as well as a torpedo bomber. Still counts  !

[Shifty]

I could see it for the B5N and TBM since they both have level bomb sights. Anything else... Nah.

[dj4592]

  +1 i love me some B5N perk farmin' and it would be great to have drones for them, although carrier landing might be an issue with the drones being giant kamikaze bombs trying to follow pattern...