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Me-410 props?
« on: August 17, 2011, 08:58:26 PM »
Can anybody tell me if Me-410 used diffrent props or was the props in the color photo cut short?



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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 09:03:34 PM »
Could have been a prop tip mod made either in the factory or field.  There are similar tip mods available for civil aircraft.
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 12:43:39 AM »
Could have been a prop tip mod made either in the factory or field.  There are similar tip mods available for civil aircraft.

I;m guessing that one of the tips was damaged when they got the 410 ready for the museum it was easier to make them even then to source new blades
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 03:01:26 AM »
Me thinks Gup is right. There was a VSS prop with angled tips but it did not look like that.

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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 09:26:46 AM »
Museums don't always get it right. Not many Me410s around. Supposing they were missing one or both props to begin with, most museums would stick a replacement on there.

So don't go by what you see in the museum, go by the photo you have. That is the standard blade type for the Me410 in every photo I've seen. Ignore the museum with regards to finer details. I've read that many people were absolutely convinced the Me109E had a gun firing through the prop because they looked down the nose of one in a museum and saw it. In reality this was never the case. The engine setup and vibrations caused the guns to jam and they were removed after the testing stage. However, a museum putting together a display won't mind putting it in there. It looks good, it captures the imagination, etc. I don't hold it against them or anything. You just can't take their setups as gospel.

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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 06:34:36 PM »
Apparently they ran the engines up on this bird until about 1988.

Note here that there is a photo showing it with the full span blades.  Also note that the sawing off of the tips is mentioned although no one seemed to know why, which points back to one of them being damaged and the rest evened out.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/201-300/walk205_Me410/walk205.htm
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2011, 11:39:58 AM »
What museum is this picture from and is that a Ki-45 in the background?
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 12:11:48 PM »
What museum is this picture from and is that a Ki-45 in the background?

I think thats a Ki.46 Dinah not a Ki.45, but I'd like to know the museum too.

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 12:16:15 PM »
RAF Cosford, part of RAF Museum
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 12:17:28 PM »
how is the me410 superior to the bf110?
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2011, 05:23:13 PM »
how is the me410 superior to the bf110?
Offensive packages, a bit faster.

Wing loading was much higher though, so handling probably is worse.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2011, 10:24:32 PM »
Worse handling than the 110? I take back my vote.  :D
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2011, 12:52:38 AM »
Compared to what? A fully loaded, fully decked out 110g with max fuel performs a fraction as well as one with half gas and guns only.

A fully loaded 410 probably handles worse than a clean 110G in turn radius, but comparing clean to clean, the 410 had a lot more range and with standard package only so you could compare it with 25% to a 110G with 50% and save a lot of weight (making it perform better). I'd think it wasn't any worse than the 110G. Thought I don't know it was any better either. It was faster though. I don't know of any tests that tell the minimum turning radius and so forth but they must be out there somewhere.

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 08:29:35 PM »
The 410's wing loading was higher than the 110G, but less than the P-38L. It had better power loading than the 110G, but worse than the P-38L. I guess its turn radius would be somewhere between the 110 and P-38, probably closer to the 38.
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Re: Me-410 props?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011, 03:34:19 AM »
Offensive packages, a bit faster.

Wing loading was much higher though, so handling probably is worse.

I don't mind the higher wingloading, I'm under the impression that a higher wingloading will make the plane less draggy and a better bnz plane....sounds like a 5 ENY plane!
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