2 Country AH

[Krusty]

In response to a totally neutral and friendly gang-bang of outcries at him? Right?

I don't see it as smart alecky, no.

[gyrene81]

An Ad Hominem was about what I was expecting your response to be. Keep proving me right 

and continuing with that one trick lack of actual intelligence i see. serves you well.

[gyrene81]

In response to a totally neutral and friendly gang-bang of outcries at him? Right?

I don't see it as smart alecky, no.

krusty, you appear to have missed something along the way. there was one response from tony joey before skorpion's "childish" response. the other 2 simply called him on it based on the words he chose to use. hardly a "gang bang" in any view.

[skorpion]

obviously both of you missed the obvious...the bolded words were what got their attention

that would be construed as "smart alec"...

im pretty sure, most people would have had the common sense to figure out that ripping a country out would divide squads and could possibly give 1 side an extreme numbers advantage to the other.

and the last thing you needed to so dearly bold, was a question, not being a smartass. like i said, all the adults think that what kids post is no good. or pure sarcasm.

[Ardy123]

Guys, look at from this angle...

What is the problem that we are trying to solve?

1) One country gets ignored
2) One country has more players than the other two countries combined
Any others?


Do we agree that these are problems?

[gyrene81]

1) One country gets ignored

it happens, could happen to any of the 3.

2) One country has more players than the other two countries combined

same answer as #1

Do we agree that these are problems?

short answer is no. it's a social issue, people making choices.

during primetime last night, the rooks had 25 more players than knits and around 30 more than bish...there comes a time in the late evening when most of the bish population disappears, like it's bedtime and the parents kick them off the computer. can't be helped. and we all know htc is not going to force people to "even the sides".

[TonyJoey]

TonyJoey.

The presentation of an idea expressed with correct punctuation, grammer, spelling and proper word usage allows for the idea itself to be thought of without the distractions that improper use affords.
Simplified: By the time I had struggled through reading your suggestion I had already decided not to reply about the subject you chose.  If you have a great idea that is ignorantly articulated, you may expect people to dismiss your idea because of that alone.  People will assume that your idea has diminished value if they think you are ignorant.
Yes, I know this is harsh.

I know the bullet point presentation was a little rushed and agree it definately isn't the most effective way of presenting an idea, but I thought my main points got across decently, and my grammar/spelling were up to snuff.

[Ardy123]

it happens, could happen to any of the 3.
same answer as #1

short answer is no. it's a social issue, people making choices.

during primetime last night, the rooks had 25 more players than knits and around 30 more than bish...there comes a time in the late evening when most of the bish population disappears, like it's bedtime and the parents kick them off the computer. can't be helped. and we all know htc is not going to force people to "even the sides".

So you don't believe that any game play mechanism can encourage people to change their behavior?

[gyrene81]

So you don't believe that any game play mechanism can encourage people to change their behavior?

well, perhaps if you present an idea where freedom of choice can co-exist with one person's idealism, i might be inclined to agree with it.

as of right now the population in the lw arena stands at 121 bish, 123 knits, 142 rooks...where exactly is the problem?

[TonyJoey]

well, perhaps if you present an idea where freedom of choice can co-exist with one person's idealism, i might be inclined to agree with it.

as of right now the population in the lw arena stands at 121 bish, 123 knits, 142 rooks...where exactly is the problem?

Even with that many people on, there are times when one side faces a drought of fights. That, or the fights are too sparse for there to be any good furball. With as many people on as you said, ideally there would be about 190 people on each side. If there is even one fight on the entire map, every single one of those 190 people will have access to it.

no. the way we  have it is fine right now.

  Not funny!

[Ardy123]

well, perhaps if you present an idea where freedom of choice can co-exist with one person's idealism, i might be inclined to agree with it.

as of right now the population in the lw arena stands at 121 bish, 123 knits, 142 rooks...where exactly is the problem?

wait till mid-night PST (I'm guessing 2am or 3am for you)... then you will see the problem.

...and how does having 2 countries reduce one's freedom of choice or limit idealism?

[TonyJoey]

wait till mid-night PST (I'm guessing 2am or 3am for you)... then you will see the problem.

...and how does having 2 countries reduce one's freedom of choice or limit idealism?

I would argue that if anything, your freedom of choice would only increase. You would have more bases to fly from, while still having the oppurtunity to attack roughly the same number of bases as before, depending on the map layout.

[Tank-Ace]

The 2 country idea will always fail due uneven numbers issue. There would always be one side clearly dominating the other in numbers as opposed to the two countrys we have dominating the knights in numbers.

[TonyJoey]

The 2 country idea will always fail due uneven numbers issue. There would always be one side clearly dominating the other in numbers as opposed to the two countrys we have dominating the knights in numbers.

As I mentioned in my original post, side balancing would occur much faster with only one country for the "switch to low numbers furballers" to go to. They would be the ever shifting part of the population that keeps the two countries relatively balanced.

[Ardy123]

The 2 country idea will always fail due uneven numbers issue. There would always be one side clearly dominating the other in numbers as opposed to the two countrys we have dominating the knights in numbers.

And why do you believe that?

Is the issue that people only want to play on the 'winning side'?

If so wouldn't a mechanism to prevent them from switching the numerically advantaged side be advantageous?

Or is the 'freedom' of choosing a side more important than having good game play?

It breaks down into to groups...
1) people who believe everyone but the muppets and a few others would be on one country...
2) people who believe that high eny and clouds of green will encourage people to switch...

And there are two approaches...
1) enable people to freely switch with no penalty.
2) penalize people who switch to encourage stability.

I don't see a way for having 'freedom' and believing in group 1, and with that said it goes back to, is your cartoon "freedom" more important than your desire for good cartoon gameplay?