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Offline Nypsy

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F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« on: August 18, 2011, 08:55:52 PM »
From Jones Beach 2009, for those who have not seen it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1ywUmBpVGY&feature=related
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Offline Seanaldinho

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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 09:40:33 PM »
Very nice  :aok

I'll have to try that in the sailplane  :devil
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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 10:08:32 PM »
Close to the barrier but not breaking it.
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Offline MaSonZ

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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 10:26:46 PM »
Quote from: rogwar on August 18, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
Close to the barrier but not breaking it.
? there was the ever fmaous cloud and the sonic boom.. what else is needed?
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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 10:34:34 PM »
Rogwar is right, that was not the sound barrier. If it was you'd be able to hear him ~40 miles away, and a lot of people would be very unhappy.


Quote from: MaSonZ on August 18, 2011, 10:26:46 PM
? there was the ever fmaous cloud and the sonic boom.. what else is needed?

The cloud was only there because the humidity was high enough, if he was going supersonic the cloud would have been a lot bigger.
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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 10:37:58 PM »
but Mach, remember, it was a video camera, not a Hollywood movie camera. im sure it wouldnt be that sensitive to sound. in reality there on the beach they may have heard it that far out, but we all know how video cameras are with sound...
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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 10:39:36 PM »
Quote from: MaSonZ on August 18, 2011, 10:37:58 PM
but Mach, remember, it was a video camera, not a Hollywood movie camera. im sure it wouldnt be that sensitive to sound. in reality there on the beach they may have heard it that far out, but we all know how video cameras are with sound...

In the description it says this happened on Jones Beach On May 24th, 2009, I was there.

I don't know this for a fact but I think you actually need special permission (or an emergency) to be allowed to break to sound barrier of the US mainland because a lot of people will be pissed off. Sometimes you can hear it in the desert around Nevada Arizona area away from all the cites, but I don't think they do it at airshows (at least I have never heard it on an airshow). On 2nd thoughts maybe they do them at airshows on remote bases (such as Edwards AFB), but I have not been on many around here yet.
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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 10:42:56 PM »
BTW since were on topic:

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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 10:56:16 PM »
Quote from: MachFly on August 18, 2011, 10:42:56 PM
BTW since were on topic:

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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 10:59:03 PM »
how much pressure do the ariframes undergo when they break the sound barrier? must be immense..
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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 11:34:22 PM »
11 years and countless times hearing it.

That Hornet Did not Break the sound barrier. For one, it is illegal to do that at that altitude and in that setting and for two, had it gone supersonic it would have been much much louder. Of that I am 100% sure.

What you saw was water vapor and vortices off the wings and fuselage. sorry but no "whoo hoo there".

He was very fast though, just not supersonic.

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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 11:47:06 PM »
Quote from: RTR on August 18, 2011, 11:34:22 PM
it is illegal to do that at that altitude and in that setting

I'm more than sure that your right about that but I been looking for something that officially states that and I can't find it. Do you know anything that specifically says that?
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 11:51:12 PM »
well If I was an American I would star with FARS.

As a Canadian I coud find it in CARS.

These are civilian regulations, but you will find that the military regs parrot the civilian regs almost verbatim in domestic airspace in peacetime.

Just a hunch from an active aviation dude and a retired RCAF dude.

Oh, and breaking the sound barrier at that altitude...breaks windows. The Canadian Government bought alot of windows one summer in Holland. <G>

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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 11:59:52 PM »
Quote from: RTR on August 18, 2011, 11:51:12 PM
well If I was an American I would star with FARS.

As a Canadian I coud find it in CARS.

These are civilian regulations, but you will find that the military regs parrot the civilian regs almost verbatim in domestic airspace in peacetime.

Just a hunch from an active aviation dude and a retired RCAF dude.

Oh, and breaking the sound barrier at that altitude...breaks windows. The Canadian Government bought alot of windows one summer in Holland. <G>

cheers,

RTR

I never seen it in the FAR, and if any place will have it it should defiantly be the FAR. I'll do some more searching for it online, might find something. Might have more luck.
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Re: F-18 breaks the sound barrier.
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2011, 12:02:48 AM »
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