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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #120 on: August 21, 2011, 04:51:40 PM »
Oh now there is a response that gives you instant credibility(Image removed from quote.)



And no. I dont have to follow that kind of order from a cop

LoL Mr. Tough Guy, I am sorry but last time I checked a person with a gun and a tazer can pretty much do whatever he wants. The only say you have is in court...3 days later.
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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #121 on: August 21, 2011, 05:00:04 PM »
Wrong

5.40.220 - Obstruction of parking regulations.

The removal, obliteration, or concealment by any person of any chalk mark or other distinguishing mark, used by any police officer or other officer or employee of the city in the enforcement of the parking regulations of the city, for the purpose of evading said parking regulations shall constitute an infraction.

(Ord. 1358 § 1, 1979).

Under the ordinance, and supported by case law throughout the state, the movement of vehicle only slightly has been found to be in a manner, or have the effect, of 'concealment' pursuant to the ordinance. Aside from this, he was videoed 'obliterating' the marks with a damp rag.

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I wasnt disputing the chalk mark.
But part two is still in question.
I see nowhere there that dissallows him to move the vehicle by hand. and " slightly"  is far from defined. If its only a couple of feet then I would agree. But if he's moving it to another spot.. Lets just say it leaves for wide interpretation.

A good lawyer or even a not so good one and he beats this case easily.

Furthermore. and it could be argued. that under what Im understanding your interpretation would be. If I had a car parked for a couple of days. Then took the car and went to the store. Came back and the next spot open was the only one available. and parked there. I would be in violation.
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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #122 on: August 21, 2011, 05:04:41 PM »
I am reality, I am here to tell you that just because cops are bounded by the law...when they tell you to strip down naked in the street and do 10 push-ups on I-10 you, at that point in time, have no choice but to listen to them.

Not sure how it got to this point with oneway's thread, but a police officer cannot make me do that.  If he had no legitimate legally backed reason to ask me to do something, I will so "no".  If he threatened to use lethal force to make me do it, I have a right to defend myself.

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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #123 on: August 21, 2011, 05:07:31 PM »
LoL Mr. Tough Guy, I am sorry but last time I checked a person with a gun and a tazer can pretty much do whatever he wants. The only say you have is in court...3 days later.

More responses that give credibility. LMAO your obviously a joke.

Not only woudnt I have to . But cops are not allowed to. Go ahead and Tazer me and the cops problems for even trying such a thing become even more complicated.
Because they have a gun and tazer? Ohhh impressive. difference between having one and being willing to use it. Particularly to do somethign they know is illegal for them to do in the first place.
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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #124 on: August 21, 2011, 05:08:11 PM »
I wasnt disputing the chalk mark.
But part two is still in question.
I see nowhere there that dissallows him to move the vehicle by hand. and " slightly"  is far from defined. If its only a couple of feet then I would agree. But if he's moving it to another spot.. Lets just say it leaves for wide interpretation.

A good lawyer or even a not so good one and he beats this case easily.

Furthermore. and it could be argued. that under what Im understanding your interpretation would be. If I had a car parked for a couple of days. Then took the car and went to the store. Came back and the next spot open was the only one available. and parked there. I would be in violation.

No, you would be fine

But when video evidence exists, showing an individual get into a vehicle, and roll it a few feet, lock it back up and leave, that constitutes 'concealment', and case law supports it. The act is viewed as intentional concealment of the mark, and deliberate intent to obstruct enforcement of lawful regulations.

F. Lee Baily couldn't defend it.

Its why the guy got hooked up and hauled away.
There were no questions, no indecision on the part of the parking people; it is why they threw the 3 chock marks on in 5 minutes and called the wrecker.

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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #125 on: August 21, 2011, 05:15:00 PM »
Not sure how it got to this point with oneway's thread, but a police officer cannot make me do that.  If he had no legitimate legally backed reason to ask me to do something, I will so "no".  If he threatened to use lethal force to make me do it, I have a right to defend myself.



Jayhawk is correct.

No citizen is required to follow an unlawful order of a peace officer (or any government official); in fact citizens are within their rights to ignore or not comply with unlawful orders, and entirely within their right to summon an officer from a different agency and file a complaint (ie call the Sheriff of your county if a city cop is abusing your rights).

However, prudence suggest you follow the order (stay alive), and then get rich with a good civil attorney when municipality/jurisdiction settles out of court many months down the road.

Unlawful search and detainment, and abuse of power end in huge monetary settlements providing their is evidence (video, audio or eye witness)...and of course your case is helped if the officer in question has a history of such usurpation of authority.

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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #126 on: August 21, 2011, 05:15:27 PM »
No, you would be fine

But when video evidence exists, showing an individual get into a vehicle, and roll it a few feet, lock it back up and leave, that constitutes 'concealment', and case law supports it. The act is viewed as intentional concealment of the mark, and deliberate intent to obstruct enforcement of lawful regulations.

F. Lee Baily couldn't defend it.

Its why the guy got hooked up and hauled away.
There were no questions, no indecision on the part of the parking people; it is why they threw the 3 chock marks on in 5 minutes and called the wrecker.

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Ok. And I admit that I havent read the entire thread so I may have missed this point.
Exactly how far is "a few feet"?

Second question. Exactly how long was he leaving the vehicle at each location.?

Day or two to me seems hardly worth it.
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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #127 on: August 21, 2011, 05:20:10 PM »
Not sure how it got to this point with oneway's thread, but a police officer cannot make me do that.  If he had no legitimate legally backed reason to ask me to do something, I will so "no".  If he threatened to use lethal force to make me do it, I have a right to defend myself.



Oh thats easy it went so fast. I was debating the subject at hand when Flipper said "if you came to me" as though he had some sort of insider knowledge so I asked for some credentials so as it might lend some credibility to his comment.
He responded with asinine remarks. And here we are.
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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #128 on: August 21, 2011, 05:26:18 PM »
Ok. And I admit that I havent read the entire thread so I may have missed this point.
Exactly how far is "a few feet"?

Second question. Exactly how long was he leaving the vehicle at each location.?

Day or two to me seems hardly worth it.

The ordinance is 72 hours.

This individual would leave his vehicle in the same spot for at time up to 2 weeks. When he did make a move...it was typically to pull up to a new space, or back into a new space...or simply move across the street.

All 7 of my neighbors were livid with what he was doing...and until I captured it on video...there was little we could do.

He was given ample warning once the video started rolling, and told about the video...and warned that he would towed.

In fact it was the parking people who told me to video it; that without that their was little if anything they could do; they did not
have the resources to 'stake out his vehicle'.

It was simple then...take one of the 4 exterior video cameras I have running 24 7, point it at the street, and dump it to DVR...with  a little monitoring of the chalk marks disappearing and the deal was sealed.

I even asked the neighbors to come over and view the footage before I made the final call to the cops; unanimously they said pull the trigger...no more warnings.

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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #129 on: August 21, 2011, 05:35:09 PM »
Seems the time to nail him was during one of his two week stints. One day over and there ya go

Getting back to my car scenareo for a moment.
If I had taken the car to the store and then came back as I described. but you didnt see me do that. It would undoubtedly appear as if I simply moved the car from one spot to another. Personally I have no problem with that. Longer then the 72 hours and I agree with the point.

Would I be correct in guessing this guy was fairly young. Early 20's?
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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #130 on: August 21, 2011, 05:36:11 PM »
Seems the time to nail him was during one of his two week stints. One day over and there ya go

Getting back to my car scenareo for a moment.
If I had taken the car to the store and then came back as I described. but you didnt see me do that. It would undoubtedly appear as if I simply moved the car from one spot to another. Personally I have no problem with that. Longer then the 72 hours and I agree with the point.

Would I be correct in guessing this guy was fairly young. Early 20's?

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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #131 on: August 21, 2011, 06:24:20 PM »
Out of curiosity oneway, how long was he doing this before he finally got towed?
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« Reply #132 on: August 21, 2011, 06:29:52 PM »
Out of curiosity oneway, how long was he doing this before he finally got towed?

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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #133 on: August 21, 2011, 06:30:12 PM »
Bunch of older men acting like grannies. Once again if I ever act that way put me down.
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Re: Evil personified (Me): Hooked and towed to the impound - dirt bag adios
« Reply #134 on: August 21, 2011, 06:38:56 PM »
Long story short:

I live in a community that maxes curbside parking at 72 hours before a vehicle is deemed abandon and can be towed.

I have been dealing with a certain vehicle whose owner played the cat and mouse game of merely rolling it forward or back a few feet every 48 hours to skate.

This guy made the mistake of using my property curbside for his shenanigans...I warned him that his actions would not fly in front of my house...and it would be costly...

He dissed me and said it was public street and that he would do anything he wanted...IDIOT...he obviously has never flown an AH Scenario or event under strict command and protocols...

I got sick and tired of his games and so did the parking people...once I convinced them of what he was doing (took two weeks dealing with bureaucrats to get them on board)...the game was over

A few digital photo's, my street video surveillance camera, and some corroborating testimony from neighbors was enough to cause action

They came out yesterday and threw 3 chock stripes on his tire in 5 minutes - his cob web infested tires...normally they stripe once every 24 hours 3 times to get to 72 hours
They were convinced this guy was a dirt bag scammer via the pics, video and neighbors who backed me up...

The guy's long term storage ride was towed to the impound today - he should have listened when I told him his ride was gonna get hooked and I was sick of his games

Locked and loaded in case he goes haywire over this...then again I pack loaded at home 24 7... so nothing new here

Victory....

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edit: I am the Evil and cruel person in this scenario...Evil Personified...thank you very much



i'm quoting this, as it appears as if a lot of people haven't read the entire post. like the parts where the neighbors didn't like it either. or the cob webs, saying that the car hasn't been driven.......bolded stuff
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