Threat management, observation and a lesson

[guncrasher]

Great post JUGgler!

This describes last night for me perfectly. I was bored and started upping C47's with the intent of drawing down enemy fighters, and boy let me tell you it works. The amount of fighters that would dive through the friendly fighter cap down to try and kill me was amazing.

There was a lone P51 that ingnored the fighters in the area and came straight for me. I dodged his attack and he made a hard turn, bleeding his E and attacked, and missed again. At that point he had lost his advantage and was killed by the friendly fighters defending the field.

Since I fly B25's a lot I see this happen all the time, people will ignore all the fighters and come straight for me. Usually I do end up dying but it's not uncommon that they end up dying as well to friendlies in the area. I have a film of one of our more well known pilots diving his 262 down through a fighter cap and trying to attack my B25, however, he compressed and crashed into a nearby hillside. (And no it wasn't Grizz.  )

in your goon case, you were the biggest threat as you are the only one that can take the base.  had there only beena couple of fighters perhaps it might have been different situation.  last night we had an noe mission, I flew past no less than 5 110, 2 fighters and two sets of buffs.  not one of them turned to attack me faked a ho to another 110 and proceeded to kill 3 of the 5  goons.

threat assessment  is one of the basic skills learned by a decent player and for jugler to say that 95% (or more) lack this skill is arrogant.

semp

[JUGgler]

in your goon case, you were the biggest threat as you are the only one that can take the base.  had there only beena couple of fighters perhaps it might have been different situation.  last night we had an noe mission, I flew past no less than 5 110, 2 fighters and two sets of buffs.  not one of them turned to attack me faked a ho to another 110 and proceeded to kill 3 of the 5  goons.

threat assessment  is one of the basic skills learned by a decent player and for jugler to say that 95% (or more) lack this skill is arrogant.

semp

I knew my secret admirer would show up!




JUGgler

[guncrasher]

I knew my secret admirer would show up!




JUGgler

now you are being arrogant and conceited. 

semp

[Nathan60]

Semp I really think  Jugs  was just throwing a  number out  there 95%?  No  but  an awful lot  of people  will leave people hanging to go kill a buff it's really irritating when they go  off after  17's and  get downed before they  are even within 1 k for once I kinda  agree with Jugs

[Midway]

   JUGgler is capable of intelligent thought.  

  or is there more to this....another post with a double meaning (ex. he's in the top 5% and we are all noobs and dweebs and pantied girls)?

 

[AAJagerX]

Seriously JUG, I'm ashamed of you.  You should take EVERY opportunity to kill your squaddies in that situation.  Nothing is quite as fun as squad vox when they realize what just happened to em!  

[Beefcake]

.......in your goon case, you were the biggest threat as you are the only one that can take the base.  had there only beena couple of fighters perhaps it might have been different situation....

semp

Actually I was over a friendly field with 4-5 friendly fighters and several wirbles down below. Had this been at an enemy field and I was going for the town then I would agree completely. No, no this was just a guy wanting an easy kill and he ended up dying for it.

[Orbitson]

  Great thread!

[guncrasher]

Seriously JUG, I'm ashamed of you.  You should take EVERY opportunity to kill your squaddies in that situation.  Nothing is quite as fun as squad vox when they realize what just happened to em!  

oh he's done that before. killed them in 262, but I dont think he was aware it was them as he picked them in a sea of red.  good a good film of it, pretty funny actually.

semp

[Dragon]

Good stuff JUGgler 

[LCADolby]

 JUGgler is capable of intelligent thought.  

He overheard it in a bar somewhere  

 

[Changeup]

 JUGgler is capable of intelligent thought.  

  or is there more to this....another post with a double meaning (ex. he's in the top 5% and we are all noobs and dweebs and pantied girls)?

 

Holy cow....I give up.  The guy makes a post that is intelligent, very helpful and 100% dead-on-balls accurate and Sigmund Freud shows up to take a giant whiz on the advice.  What a cesspool.

JUG and other vets....stop helping them and just start killing um....maybe they'll get it then.

[JUGgler]

Seriously JUG, I'm ashamed of you.  You should take EVERY opportunity to kill your squaddies in that situation.  Nothing is quite as fun as squad vox when they realize what just happened to em!  

Well I was in a Boston, so the chances of killing muppets was slim indeed. I did get crammed into the scalp bag of Fester and Hemp though, ugh very hot and moist!!!




JUGgler

[JUGgler]

oh he's done that before. killed them in 262, but I dont think he was aware it was them as he picked them in a sea of red.  good a good film of it, pretty funny actually.

semp

I have NO moral issues with killing muppets, although it is more difficult then killing the rest of you 



Post it, it will be good for laughs!!



JUGgler

[Condor11]

I look at it more from an E standpoint.  Who has the E to be a threat?  Deal with them first.  If the A20 has position, he might be the biggest threat.

That's what keeps me coming back.  Every fight is different.  There is no instantly apparent right way of approaching every fight.

I agree thoughJug.  Too few people approach it like that.
Wiley.

Well said, my approach is similar.
offensively I see who poses the greatest threat to the type of fight I want to fight. If they have the ability to pick, chase, turn with or climb on me, they take priority over the easy kill low n slow.

Defensively, I focus on who is the most immidiate shooter/what type of guns they have got.

Situational awareness is the key to survival imho.