Video for the flight instructors.

[B4Buster]

I've flown longer downwinds before while practicing short field landings before. It's good to give yourself extra time to set up on final in that situation.

[B4Buster]

Can't edit that post...had one too many before :bolt

[Tordon22]

Uncontrolled I do 10m, 5m, 45 entry, downwind, base, final, clear. Just the schools policy so I stick to it.

If I'm on my own it mostly depends on how busy it sounds on the way in, some of the fields down here that the schools target for training can end up with as many as 6-7 planes in a pattern. Way too many, and I see myself out in those situations.

Also some places have really funky noise abatement procedures.

[MachFly]

I like to fly just above the tree tops, no radio calls or nothing. Just fly straight in, drop some flaps, reduce speed and land.

Please tell me your joking?
Is it at least a low wing airplane (so you can see what's above you)? Because your a lot harder to spot when your just flying straight & level than when you turn. See no one is expecting people to fly a low 10nm final without a radio.

[MachFly]

As for real life?  Never flown a plane in my life...  Starting to get stuff in order to get my license.  My cousin is commercail and supposed to be sending me all the books and study stuff she had for her things.  Says it'll save me a couple thousand off the top.  From there, my local field is about $140/hr last I checked for cesna flight instruction including fuel.  Hopefully someday I can have as many stripes as that guy.

Start with this:

Advice for AH players starting real flight training:

1. Avoid the urge to initiate rolling scissors with nearby air traffic.

2. Do not call "tally ho" when sighting nearby air traffic.

3. Avoid urge to strafe buildings with the guns you don't have.

4. Do not attempt to impress flight instructor with hammerhead turn.

5. Do not ask Chewie to post mission.

6. Do not offer to "run sups" for airport service vehicles.

7. Do not try to set up a crossing shot with nearby air traffic.

8. Multi-engine aircraft are not referred to as "buffs"

9. Do not try to vulch.

10. For the love of dog do not HO.

 

[cpxxx]

Very funny machfly/muzzy. I have to say that since I took up jump flying some of my antics resemble stuff I did on AH. Once the load is dropped there follows a spiral descent with the VSI off the scale, a close pass for the high canopy. Then a curving Spitfire style approach from the overhead to short final at about 120 knots shedding speed until touchdown at 60 knots. Just like in sim life.

But that's on days when I have the field to myself. When the local flying club is out they fly those massive cross country patterns. No good reason for it, there's no noise issues locally. I end up following behind frustratedly. Not only do they fly these massive patterns. One take off direction takes them over the town, yet they doggedly fly a dead straight line over the centre. Lose power and they end up scattered over three streets and all over the evening news. It's the same on landing they drag it in over the houses and schools. It really isn't sensible or safe. I take an early turn and head for the countryside or turn in tight on landing.

One day somebody will pay the price for such huge patterns.

[CAP1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6q2VKsvQEQ&feature=feedf

I concur.

 

 i learned early to fly a nice tight neat pattern. for some odd reason, my engine used to keep acting up, when i'd fly a little fat, and i'd have to tryt o glide to the runway.    then it'd mysteriously come back. 

[rogwar]

Please tell me your joking?
Is it at least a low wing airplane (so you can see what's above you)? Because your a lot harder to spot when your just flying straight & level than when you turn. See no one is expecting people to fly a low 10nm final without a radio.

Yes it was referring to AH.

[VonMessa]

Runways?  I guess you have towers, too?

You all need to build one of these...(I have plans if you want a peek)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhpbQGeR3s

I had the pleasure of meeting this gentleman back in May at this particular field (which is really his front yard).

Yes it is a small and cramped as it looks  

[MachFly]

Yes it was referring to AH.

Ah, okay than. In AH you can just split-S onto the runway. 

[Grayeagle]

I got a huge kick outta the video .. the disclaimers are excellent.

I always flew my approaches using 'Stick and Rudder' principles as a guide.. worked fine.
FBO operator greeted me with 'you here to dive bomb my runway again?' after she watched a few.

Mike (my instructor) told me it was a great system because if the engine failed I would still make the runway.

Paraphrased from 'Stick and Rudder':
When wing lines up with the numbers on downwind, reduce throtte to idle, trade alt for airspeed onto base, then final
.. ideally you should flare for landing right at the numbers without touching the throttle.

Don't get married to the concept or push a bad setup, you gotta be on top of what yer ship is doin and what's happening around you.
I had to add throttle for go-rounds and crosswind components (hi-desert, SoCal) about half of my landings.

That said .. for my final checkride before solo .. the landing was perfect, mains touched down smoothly right on the numbers as she stopped flyin

ya ..I had 7 hours dual by then .. but .. tens of thousands of hours in various sims over the years, mostly Air Warrior

-Frank aka GE

[CAP1]

I got a huge kick outta the video .. the disclaimers are excellent.

I always flew my approaches using 'Stick and Rudder' principles as a guide.. worked fine.
FBO operator greeted me with 'you here to dive bomb my runway again?' after she watched a few.

Mike (my instructor) told me it was a great system because if the engine failed I would still make the runway.

Paraphrased from 'Stick and Rudder':
When wing lines up with the numbers on downwind, reduce throtte to idle, trade alt for airspeed onto base, then final
.. ideally you should flare for landing right at the numbers without touching the throttle.

Don't get married to the concept or push a bad setup, you gotta be on top of what yer ship is doin and what's happening around you.
I had to add throttle for go-rounds and crosswind components (hi-desert, SoCal) about half of my landings.

That said .. for my final checkride before solo .. the landing was perfect, mains touched down smoothly right on the numbers as she stopped flyin

ya ..I had 7 hours dual by then .. but .. tens of thousands of hours in various sims over the years, mostly Air Warrior

-Frank aka GE

bolded........

 was flying with a friend of mine, in his super decathalon. we went out over the warren grove moa, as it was "cold", and did a few divebombing passes on the fake migs on the fake runway down there. was kinda fun. 

[MachFly]

bolded........

 was flying with a friend of mine, in his super decathalon. we went out over the warren grove moa, as it was "cold", and did a few divebombing passes on the fake migs on the fake runway down there. was kinda fun. 

Nice, did he let you sit in the front?

[CAP1]

Nice, did he let you sit in the front?

i wish.....

[MachFly]

i wish.....

Roger