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Offline B-17

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2011, 11:02:08 AM »
... "YOU CAN'T PUT B-36s[/bold] IN A GAME WITH ME-262s[/bold] THE B-36s WOULD RUN AROUND ALL DAY AND NEVER CATCH ANYTHING!" "waaaaaaaaaaaa" :excuseme:




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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2011, 11:15:30 AM »
Oh snap. Well lets just give the sub an extra 50 knots so that the game is FUN EVERY MINUTE!

Oh wait, the sub is faster than the cv now, that wont work. Dam, how can we fix this? I know, lets give the cv another 50 knots....




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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2011, 11:29:40 AM »
Oh wait, the sub is faster than the cv now, that wont work. Dam, how can we fix this? I know, lets give the cv another 50 knots....




SH*! JULIO   The cv is mas rapido ahora.  :bhead

I want the spitfire with the fricking lazer beams  :furious.

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2011, 12:02:00 PM »
I want the spitfire with the fricking lazer beams  :furious.

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Why not, we have lazer puffy ack, we got instant repair and rearm for ground vehicles even though "it's too gamey for planes to refuel off base," belly landings with absolutely zero dangerous consequences, and a war where every single combatant can horde a single point on the front line.

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2011, 09:11:24 AM »
I think right now the issue is that LVTs, CVs, and any plane that ditches (even bailed out pilots can play Jesus) stays on the surface of the water with only a little bit below the surface.  It'll take a while for HTC because they need to get an entire object to go under the water.  I can understand that it's a huge programing challenge.  Give them time, I'm sure you will see subs eventually.

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2011, 01:05:16 PM »
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PN: WW2 subs went about 15knots on the surface and about 4 under water.
:huh I gues it depends on the kind of sub or Uboat... The S-Class subs like the S-18 could only make 13 kts on the surface but could make 9 kts submerged. however a much larger uboat like the Balo or Tambor could make 21kts on the surface and 9 submerged.
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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2011, 01:51:41 PM »
:huh I gues it depends on the kind of sub or Uboat... The S-Class subs like the S-18 could only make 13 kts on the surface but could make 9 kts submerged. however a much larger uboat like the Balo or Tambor could make 21kts on the surface and 9 submerged.

they're still a paddle boat when  chasing cv's.  it's like asking for a zeke to go chase 262's.

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2011, 03:52:52 PM »
they're still a paddle boat when  chasing cv's.  it's like asking for a zeke to go chase 262's.

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Or a Fokker III

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2011, 04:32:46 PM »
Jup. Submarines were used in two roles:
- attacking slowly moving convoys or single transport ships
- surprising Scapa Flow. But it only happened once.
The submarines very rarely could kill warships since they were about two times faster on the surface.
Even the Type XXII sub would be way too slow to catch our cv.

Edit: i would rather like to see battleships, with escort, just like the cv

     Since both the Germans and the US were using their subs for interdiction of commerce, it's not surprising that
they would emphasize these roles.  There were many notable successes by several different navies against warships
up to and including carriers.  

     Not saying that subs would be successful in AH, but historically they did do ok against warships.
A few that come to mind off the top of my head:

IJN Taiho    CV
HMS Barham  BB
USS Indianapolis CA
IJN Kongo BC/Fast battleship
IJN Shinano  CV
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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2011, 07:58:08 AM »
But we should have mines and so around a port so Subs can't "spawn camp" a CV.

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2011, 09:28:24 PM »
Didnt the PBY's lay mines? :O :x :cheers:

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2011, 07:13:55 AM »
Yeah. But so did the Short Sunderland. And the Ju-88.

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2011, 08:47:05 AM »
bc21 this topic has been discussed before...


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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2011, 11:51:00 PM »
bc21 this topic has been discussed before...

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No kidding? And so has the submarine. Just adding my $0.02 worth.

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Re: Submarines??
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2011, 01:47:33 AM »
If we had more supply line simulation, we could have submarine ports that spawn a submarine task group (wolf pack).  Not sure if I want it, just an idea.
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