World of Tanks

[skorpion]

1. The stats on the tanks in WoT's are notorious for being innacurate to what they really are in RL. From the front shot on a Tiger from Close range, i was chipping away atleast 20-30% damage, Sides were usually a 35-40% damage shot. Behind was 40-45%.

in game is what were talking about, not real life, the sherman 105 is tiger food. especially at long ranges. a tiger would pop that turret right off from 600m in 2 shots. as for the IS-3. well, that beast would 1 shot a sherman easily.

[Tyrannis]

in game is what were talking about, not real life, the sherman 105 is tiger food. especially at long ranges. a tiger would pop that turret right off from 600m in 2 shots. as for the IS-3. well, that beast would 1 shot a sherman easily.

I meant in-game, I reread and noticed my mistake of saying RL, and changed it, guess it didn't show up on your screen.

The sherman 105 is Not a front-line tank. I Played it as a TD. Staying back, and Sniping. Which was very effective. Feel free to look up my Beta stats with the 105 if they are still available. You'll see i have many kills on tiger 1-2's.

[skorpion]

I meant in-game, I reread and noticed my mistake of saying RL, and changed it, guess it didn't show up on your screen.

The sherman 105 is Not a front-line tank. I Played it as a TD. Staying back, and Sniping. Which was very effective. Feel free to look up my Beta stats with the 105 if they are still available. You'll see i have many kills on tiger 1-2's.

the sherman cant even penetrate a tiger2's frontal armor, and by the time a tiger2 realized a low speed, low velocity shell hit him, he had his turret turned around to you and you would probably have been dead before you got to reload...i think your starting to BS about the game a bit...

[Tyrannis]

the sherman cant even penetrate a tiger2's frontal armor, and by the time a tiger2 realized a low speed, low velocity shell hit him, he had his turret turned around to you and you would probably have been dead before you got to reload...i think your starting to BS about the game a bit...

Like i said, feel free to look up my stats.

Or have a friend up a tiger/tiger 2, And take shots on it with the 105 from Various angles, and you'l see how much you are wrong.

And the tiger cant get his sights on me if he doesn't even see me, thanks to WoT's broken spotting system.

[skorpion]

Like i said, feel free to look up my stats.

Or have a friend up a tiger/tiger 2, And take shots on it with the 105 from Various angles, and you'l see how much you are wrong.

And the tiger cant get his sights on me if he doesn't even see me, thanks to WoT's broken spotting system.

ive taken potshots at a tiger2 in my VK3601 up close at its sides with HE rounds that penetrated and hardly did 30% damage. (88MM gun) and ive tried that before i got my E8 sherman. the 105 does NOT penetrate 150mm of frontal armor. unless your shoving your 105 rounds right up his arse, then your not going to do much damage. especially at long ranges like you said.

EDIT: the IS-3 you said you could penetrate with the 105mm is pure BS. im not stepping in it because the IS-3 has 210mm of frontal armor and 140mm of side armor. try again.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Loving the Ah WoT community so far. 

[MarineUS]

how could the 105mm possibly penetrate a tigers armor? let alone a IS-3? it had a penetration of 53/150 (150 on very rare occasions) and that completely sucks, unless your loading all HEAT rounds then your not gonna do much damage. you would have been better off with a normal 75mm.

You don't use AP when using the 105. Just like the 152mm on the KV, you use strictly HE. Unlike AH, the HE in WoT explodes when it comes in contact with an enemy tank (most of the time they do NOT penetrate, but still do damage - less if the enemy has spall liner).

I would lol so hard if someone whipped out the 152 with AP rounds.

[Spikes]

The sherman 105 is Not a front-line tank. I Played it as a TD. Staying back, and Sniping. Which was very effective. Feel free to look up my Beta stats with the 105 if they are still available. You'll see i have many kills on tiger 1-2's.

1.) Sniping and Sherman 105 don't belong in the same sentence.
2.) Kills don't mean squat.

[skorpion]

You don't use AP when using the 105. Just like the 152mm on the KV, you use strictly HE. Unlike AH, the HE in WoT explodes when it comes in contact with an enemy tank (most of the time they do NOT penetrate, but still do damage - less if the enemy has spall liner).

I would lol so hard if someone whipped out the 152 with AP rounds.

HE hardly does any damage to the IS-3 if its a 105 sherman. especially at long ranges like hes BSing about. maybe 5% damage if it even reaches it. the Tiger2 would take about 7% damage. if it penetrated (VERY unlikely) it would only do 20% damage. once again, hes lying about his sherman. the 105 sherman wouldnt even be paired up with an IS-3 because its a tier 8 tank. sherman is tier 5. the Tiger2 is a tier 7 and the sherman MIGHT get paired up with it.


just his dose of BS, but im not gonna step in it.

[Spikes]

HE hardly does any damage to the IS-3 if its a 105 sherman. especially at long ranges like hes BSing about. maybe 5% damage if it even reaches it. the Tiger2 would take about 7% damage. if it penetrated (VERY unlikely) it would only do 20% damage. once again, hes lying about his sherman. the 105 sherman wouldnt even be paired up with an IS-3 because its a tier 8 tank. sherman is tier 5. the Tiger2 is a tier 7 and the sherman MIGHT get paired up with it.


just his dose of BS, but im not gonna step in it.

Tiger 2 is a Tier 8. The Sherman 105 does do good damage to tier 8 tanks. Before you bash other people, get your facts straight, tard.

[skorpion]

Tiger 2 is a Tier 8. The Sherman 105 does do good damage to tier 8 tanks. Before you bash other people, get your facts straight, tard.

so your saying a low velocity 105mm does good damage when it doesnt even penetrate? ok, go into the game with a 105 sherman against a tiger2 and see how many rounds he shrugs off. ive seen a 105 hit a tiger2 from a good distance and hardly do 5% damage.

[1701E]

I don't currently have a Sherman (skipped it for now), but I had that line in Beta and used the short 105 the Sherman gets on the T-20 and Pershing just for the hell of it.  The gun is hardly fit for high tiers but it does a hefty amount to a Tier 8 target if it doesn't bounce (know how to aim and it won't bounce much), but it is not an AP gun no short-barrel gun is really.  The short 105 is not a gun fit for sniping at 0.48 accuracy. The 76mm is more fitting, but the 105 can easily do damage to a Tiger II.
As for the Tiering an M4 vs Tiger II, easily possibly.  The match making allows a T5 medium to go into T5-9 battles.


http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/10168-match-making-system/page__pid__129225#entry129225

[Spikes]

so your saying a low velocity 105mm does good damage when it doesnt even penetrate? ok, go into the game with a 105 sherman against a tiger2 and see how many rounds he shrugs off. ive seen a 105 hit a tiger2 from a good distance and hardly do 5% damage.

Because the 105 is a derp, not meant for distance.

[perdue3]

so your saying a low velocity 105mm does good damage when it doesnt even penetrate? ok, go into the game with a 105 sherman against a tiger2 and see how many rounds he shrugs off. ive seen a 105 hit a tiger2 from a good distance and hardly do 5% damage.

Youre right it doesn't penetrate because it is a Howitzer, i.e. it is High Explosive. And if it happens to penetrate (obviously not a King Tiger) it kills alot of things inside. The 105mm Howitzer on the M4 will DAMAGE any tank in game including a Maus (maybe 10 hitpoints).

[skorpion]

Because the 105 is a derp, not meant for distance.

from what tyrannis is saying, he said that he was poppin off turrets from (maybe) 500m+ and that is a load of BS. what im trying to get at is that he could have killed a tiger2, maybe an is-3 but not from the "long" ranges hes saying. his form of sniping is probably using a buckshot round in a shotgun at a piece of paper up close. what he's saying is that hes punching thru a piece of sheet metal with an explosive bb from 500m+ will it do damage? yes. will it do very much? no.