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Offline Tigger29

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A way to reset TrackIR
« on: August 25, 2011, 11:54:31 AM »
Every once in a rare while since the newest version I get a crash when first entering an arena.  I can close Aces High and reopen it and then it will usually work just fine and once in the arena I have no issues.  I can live with this but here's my problem.

Sometimes when this happens Aces High doesn't recognize my TrackIR in which case I have to close Aces High, close my TrackIR software, reopen the TrackIR software and then reopen Aces High (I don't know if closing/opening the TrackIR software is necessary but I do it anyway).

Without knowing any details as to how it works I have to assume that Aces High has to 'pick up' on the presence of TrackIR from the beginning in order for it to work.. in other words you can't enable it half way in and expect it to work.  I don't know how difficult this would be to implement but since we already have a .resetv command to reset the sound/vox system I figure it would be nice to have something that does the same for TrackIR... maybe .resettir or something like that.

Also every once in a RARE while if I have been playing for a long time (more than a couple hours) my TrackIR will just suddenly quit working mid-flight.  The software doesn't crash and from the software everything is working but in Aces High it's just dead.  It would be nice to have a way to reset/re-enable this without having to quit out of and relaunch Aces High.

This really isn't that big of a deal but it would be a nice feature to have added if it's not especially difficult to implement.  Also if it is something that is extremely difficult or impossible I'd be curious to learn why this is - just the basics.. because inquiring minds want to know!  Thanks!

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 12:04:34 PM »
I like the idea of .resettir if it's not that hard to implement.

What typically happens to me is, my TIR software is running, but it's hung up in some way.  I enter AH, roll down the runway, then go to look around and at that point realize my TIR's not working.  So, I get to land and shut down the game, restart my TIR software and go back in.

Again, not that big a deal but it'd be pretty handy if on the rare occasions this happens I could put it on autopilot, alt tab out, restart the TIR software and alt tab back in, .resettir and continue my sortie.  I notice it tends to happen when a squaddie is screaming for help on the deck about 5 miles from base and I'm the only one on. :)

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 12:32:35 PM »
When AH crashes (for me not very often), not only do I shut down my TIR software, but I also go into Task Manager and kill any TIR processes running. Sometimes AH kills the TIR link so bad that the process is orphaned but still running even though TIR is shut down. If I don't kill all TIR processes, AH still won't "see" it when I start the game again.
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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 01:27:33 PM »
+1  it's annoying being in the middle of furball and find out your trakir is on but ah dont recognize it.

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 05:31:38 PM »
I have had it not work on start up before. its also annoying when it stops working properly in crowds. must have something to do with the gain. I will have to try some of the other profiles.   

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 05:41:46 PM »
Does AH need to see TIR running or does TIR need to see AH running? I think it's the latter since TIR has to be running when you start AH.

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 08:19:52 PM »
Does AH need to see TIR running or does TIR need to see AH running? I think it's the latter since TIR has to be running when you start AH.

It's my belief that AH2 sees TIR as just another input device, so TIR has to be running when AH2 starts up.
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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2011, 06:29:24 AM »
It's my belief that AH2 sees TIR as just another input device, so TIR has to be running when AH2 starts up.

That may be correct, I really don't know. I know that TIR has to be running first so that it can see which program you launch and load the appropriate profile but beyond that I'm just guessing.

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2011, 12:27:53 PM »
I know that TrackIR can read if a program is running and set the correct profile for it but I don't think this is required for it to work.  I think it has to already be running when you run AH so that AH can turn on the TrackIR functions in order for it to work.

In my case I have my AH profiles set as "exclusive".  I have TIR4 but seem to have more problems running that TIR5 software (not that the TIR4 software was without fault either).  I'm thinking about reverting back to the old TIR4 software.

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2011, 03:41:05 PM »
Tigger, do you have the TIR plugged into a USB hub?  I have my old TIR 3 plugged into a USB port on my mobo, and I have only had my TIR quit mid-flight maybe three times, total, over the years.


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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2011, 04:02:36 PM »
If I have TIR running during other games prior to starting AH it sometimes doesn't work and sometimes it works for a minute then quits. If I start or restart TIR before starting AH then it's trouble free. Being able to reset it in game would be nice.

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2011, 03:04:39 PM »
Tigger, do you have the TIR plugged into a USB hub?  I have my old TIR 3 plugged into a USB port on my mobo, and I have only had my TIR quit mid-flight maybe three times, total, over the years.


Yup into a powered hub.  Also tried directly in the computer makes no difference.

Here's my story.  I have TrackIR4.  Using the TIR4 software it worked fine almost all of the time.  Every once in a rare while (maybe once every fifty times) the TIR4 software would crash on loading but if it didn't crash it was good until I shut it down.  Loading the TIR5 software would produce random crashes.. sometimes a few seconds.. other times 30 minutes into it all.  This persisted even after a hard drive upgrade (including a format/fresh install) and an upgrade from XP Home to 7 64bit, and a video card upgrade and even a power supply upgrade due to the old one that created a burning electrical small due to its fan controller failing (however the power supply itself still worked just fine!).  I just assumed the TIR5 software was still buggy (with the TIR4 hardware) and since TIR4 acted up so rarely I didn't think much of it.

With the newest update to the TIR5 software I decided to give it another try.  It no longer crashes and the software itself is much more stable however I have three problems with it.  First, every once in a while Aces High doesn't 'see' the software running and I have to quit Aces High, quit the TIR5 software and reload both then it's fine.  Second, every once in a rare while Aces High seems to "lose track" of it.  In other words  my TIR quits working in Aces High but the software is still running - giving me a green light on the camera AND showing everything is working fine in the software itself.  To fix this I again have to quit AH, quit TIR5 and reload both to fix things.  Third while it seems to increase precision and decrease background interference, the TIR5 software feels 'heavier' like it takes up more resources and has just a tiny bit of input lag as compared to the TIR4 software.  Now that I'm used to it this lag doesn't seem to be an issue (honestly one would have a hard time calling it a lag at all it just seems a bit less snappier compared to the TIR4 software).

I've been using the TIR5 software for several months now but I think I'm going to go back to the TIR4 software and try things out... I just know I'm not the only one with issues with Aces High "losing" it's TIR and I know things get off kilter from time to time I just wish there was a way to reset things without having to completely quit out of Aces High altogether, hence the wish of a .resettir command.

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Re: A way to reset TrackIR
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2011, 04:57:36 PM »
I've had the same thing happen two or three times with all of my controls. No input from anything and upon opening the controller selection in the clipboard, esc-->preferences-->map controllers, there is nothing there.

I've always assumed it was a problem with my computer. Heat, barely adequate power supply, etc.?

Exiting the game and restarting restores everything. If this didn't happen I would think it was the game and not my computer.



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