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Offline jollyFE

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Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« on: August 31, 2011, 09:44:41 AM »
Folks, I need help quick.  I had 2 9500GT cards sli'd together, one crapped out a while back so I was down to 1.  Well that one is not playing nice any more and I need to replace it.  Can anyone suggest a good one for under $300?  I'd rather not sli, my son is always playing Starcraft and he sees more probs than me.  The mbosrd is an xfx 750a.  Momma is in a good mood so I want to take advantage of it and get a good card.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2011, 11:04:54 AM »
This is what I am putting in my new build as soon as I can get my car sold. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150548

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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2011, 11:37:50 AM »
grab one of these and use the extra money to upgrade some other component or put a smile on the wife's face...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150560
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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2011, 01:49:45 PM »
The 6950 is good but perhaps a bit overpriced.

I think any single card you get will blow away 9500 SLI'd cards. The 9500 isn't all that powerful to begin with. Either a 6770 or the 6950 will out muscle the older pair.

It depends on if you want to get a stand-in card now for cheap that still games great, and then spend the money in 6 months when ATI puts out their better next-gen card, dropping all other prices, etc? Or if you just want to buy 1 card now and use it to death for a few years.

If you want a stand-in, go with the much cheaper 6770 (you can get away with a 6750 even, still good and saves lots of money). If you want one card for a long while, go for the 6950 if you can.

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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 02:47:47 PM »
does it matter that the mboard is nvidia chipset?
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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 03:48:39 PM »
A amd 6850 or nvidia 460 would both be middle of the road cards and both should be about 150.00 or so. A older AMD 5870 is still a good card.

The next step up are the 470 series and the 560 series for nvidia. The AMD 6900 series.

Make sure your Power supply will handle the card you buy.

Also I have read the AMD 6770 is very much the same as a 5770, they are very close. KInda like nvidia with the g92 8800 cards and then the 9800 g92 cards.

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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 05:04:34 PM »
I thought they shifted the numbers, so 6770 was equivelant to 5750? They inflated the numbers to make them seem higher, or something?


Oh, where was that other post? Somebody explains it to me every time but I keep forgetting.... bah, google it if you must. End result is it's still a decent card. 6770 probably gives a 6850 a run for its money. Close enough to go either way.

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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 05:55:31 PM »
From what I have read what I have heard the 5770 is a good card, though I have never had one. From a couple reviews I have read the 6770 is a replacement for the 5770, the 6770 should be a good card also. I doubt as good as the 6850.

Yes, nvidia and AMD and Intell change thier product numbers for marketing, which can make it confusing.
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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 06:25:40 PM »
does it matter that the mboard is nvidia chipset?
it can depend on what chipset you're dealing with...if you're running ati's now, shouldn't be a problem with another ati. i'm running an amd 4870 on an nforce 680ilt mobo. i did update the bios before i slapped the ati card in it, after finding a couple of possible issues.

the price of that 6770 has me looking at it...might have to wait a month though.
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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 09:01:08 PM »
For the price difference, I would personally go for a 6850 over a 6770. Just me though.
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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 09:31:07 PM »
You said under $300 :D. I have this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127575 and it kicks--well you know. Has 2gb memory is overclockable with Afterburner and has an outstanding stock cooler. Lovin it so far.
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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 10:49:40 PM »
PM me plz i have 2 470's I wil be selling soon I will give you a half way decent price on these items
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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 11:54:15 PM »
With ATI, the second digit usually determines the horsepower of the board.

The 5770 and 6770 do perform nearly identical and an older 4890 will outperform both because of the meaning of the numbers.

Most of the cards that end with 90 are twin cards in one package (called X2) but the 4890 was able to be had in a single version.

Since AMD bought ATI, it might mean that intel will not play nice with those cards as has happened before....thought maybe not now.

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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2011, 12:10:41 AM »
That's not always the case, though, icepac.

With each successive generation (first digit) you get improvements in the architecture, improvements in the card layout and overall capabilities.

While the speeds and the clocks might not increase much, the 5000 are more capable than the 4000, and the 6000 more capable than the 5000....

So no, you can't just say as a rule that means the 4890 will out muscle the 6770.

The second digit does usually indicate whether it is the standard gaming card or the budget line. 6770 is the stripped down version of the 6970, for example. Often they save money by having slower RAM (128-bit instead of 256 or 512 bit or whatever). Sometimes the extra speed can overcome the slower RAM.

A bit more "super generic blanket statement" guidelines are: there is the standard card, where the third digit is "7" (i.e. the "70" cards) and there's the slightly-more-budget usually of lower clock speeds or some other features, where the third digit is "5" (the "50"s) and then there's the high end overclocked or super beefed up variants that have "9" ("90"s)

So a 4890 was the highest top-end of the HD 4000 series, generally speaking. The 6770 is the standard of the stripped down budget-gaming cards (but still gaming, not for desktop publishing or corporate life!).

Even so, because of 2 generations of GPU development between these 2 cards, the 6770 is half the price and just about as fast as the 4890.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=608&card2=658

Check it out! Interesting, no? 4890 definitely has more memory bandwidth, but all the clocks, the performance specs for any criteria, they are even or on the side of the 6770. That newer architecture does have its benefits. Compare same-classes (4890 to 6870) and the new ones blow the old ones away.

I know this doesn't help narrow down the issue at all. Hopefully it adds a little flavor to the topic.  :D

For the sake of narrowing down the issue: The 6770 is a fine card with very nice performance. It will out perform what you are replacing. It's half your budget, as well. Or talk to ebfd11 and see what he has in mind for his 2 cards.

I don't think you can go wrong with those 2 options.

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Re: Need a vid card suggestion real quick
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2011, 06:39:00 AM »
http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/xfx-nforce-750a-sli/1707-3049_7-33238238.html

this is my current motherboard.............not sure if it could run an ati card.  I have only run nvidia cards on (they worked fine).

anyone know if the ati cards will run on this thing or is just going to be a boat anchor shortly?
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