P47D-11 vs F6F-5. Tactics requested.

[skorpion]

Youve been trying to say that YOUR D11 is more maneuverable Than an f6f when everyone else is saying it is not, then when someone says to you its not, you come back with the "its the pilot, not the plane" Sounds like it is a bit of a brag. Saying because its YOU piloting the D11, Your able to outperform a plane that in reality, Outperforms you on almost every way.
If your online then how can you say your D11 can outperform F6F's when your not online to fight f6f's piloted by real people, and not A.I's?
Thats like me Upping a p40B offline, getting into it with a K4, Shooting the A.I controlled K4 down, then say the P40B is better than the K4"In my hands"., When in reality in online the p40 cannot match the K4 on any ground.
I dont know why your still talking, Your bluff got exposed a couple posts ago, No one here believes your statements, And your too scared to attempt to prove your own words in a video. So your only talking out of ignorance now.

please tell me how im scared to proove anything in videos if im NOT ONLINE? seriously, are you that stupid? or can you not read?

[Tyrannis]

please tell me how im scared to proove anything in videos if im NOT ONLINE? seriously, are you that stupid? or can you not read?

Are you lazy?

Get out, Mow a yard, do some choirs. Like i said i used to mow yards for $20 to spend on my AH sub when i was a kid.

Mow a yard, get the money, get re-subed, 1v1 eagle, Record it, Then post the results here to prove to everyone how skilled you are in a D11.

Are you too stupid to think up ways to earn money? Or do you usually need people to point out the obvious for you?

[skorpion]

Are you lazy?

Get out, Mow a yard, do some choirs. Like i said i used to mow yards for $20 to spend on my AH sub when i was a kid.

Mow a yard, get the money, get re-subed, 1v1 eagle, Record it, Then post the results here to prove to everyone how skilled you are in a D11.

Are you too stupid to think up ways to earn money? Or do you usually need people to point out the obvious for you?

and did i say that id even do all of this for you? no. you got such a butthurt about it that you want me to throw away 15 bucks for an account that ill only use maybe 4 times a week all for that? id be more than happy to do that, but if it wasnt for a inconsiderate tool like you. honestly, you try to get me to do things i dont want to do for you when i havent done a single thing to you. from now on just leave me alone ok? i dont need morons like you annoying me.

[Tyrannis]

and did i say that id even do all of this for you? no. you got such a butthurt about it that you want me to throw away 15 bucks for an account that ill only use maybe 4 times a week all for that? id be more than happy to do that, but if it wasnt for a inconsiderate tool like you. honestly, you try to get me to do things i dont want to do for you when i havent done a single thing to you. from now on just leave me alone ok? i dont need morons like you annoying me.

Lol, im not "Butthurt" at all, If anyone here sounds butthurt, its yourself. Im merely asking you to show me these skills you have in the D11 against an F6f. I made this topic to learn how to fight F6F's In a D11 and i'd like to see a video of your flying so i too could learn how to fly the D11 well.

But apparently asking you to show your D11 skills is too much, Because ever since i said post a vid, Youve been naming off excuses after excuses of why you "cant". When the truth is your simply lying. Like i said no one here believes you. Eagl has more experiance in these style of planes than both me&you combined, and he's even saying what you say isent true.

The only moron here is you for trying to pass a lie that Had no chance of being believable.

If you dont want your feelings hurt, then please leave MY topic. You cant enter MY topic, spill a bunch of B.S then suddenly say "leave me alone" when you get backed into a corner with your lies. Like i said, LEAVE my topic, and let other More experienced people speak to me. I'd like to learn from REAL f6f/D11 pilots on how to perform against/in these planes. Not from some kid trying to sound cool when he's not even flying online.

Now, Back on topic(Hopefully  )

What would be the best Alt advantage in a D11 to maintain on an F6F? 2-3k? or around 5k?

[skorpion]

The only moron here is you for trying to pass a lie that Had no chance of being believable.
You cant enter MY topic, spill a bunch of B.S then suddenly say "leave me alone" when you get backed into a corner with your lies. Like i said, LEAVE my topic, and let other More experienced people speak to me. I'd like to learn from REAL f6f/D11 pilots on how to perform against/in these planes. Not from some kid trying to sound cool when he's not even flying online.

puhleez, your 18 and arguing with a kid, thats pathetic, your pathetic. if you want your damn proof, get me an accound and ill do it for ya. i took training for 4 months in the TA with some of the best jug pilots (lepape2 taught me most of the stuff i know) around. if i "spilled so much bs" then why cant you prove it?

[BaldEagl]

I did some checking and I could only find four tours that skorpion flew in.

He's never exceeded 0.51 K/D.

He's flown 1359 fighter sorties and another 75 attack sorties.

In the P-47D-11 Mr. Elite has 12 kills and 21 deaths.

Against the planes that he admittedly can "easily out-turn":

P-51D 2 kills, 2 deaths
F4U-1 1 kill
F6F-5 1 death
P-38J 1 death
P-38L 1 kill
Spit IX 1 kill
Spit XVI 1 kill, 1 death

Those are some pretty small sample sizes from which to draw such conclusive conclusions.

[skorpion]

I did some checking and I could only find four tours that skorpion flew in.

He's never exceeded 0.51 K/D.

He flown 1359 fighter sorties and another 75 attack sorties.

In the P-37D-11 Mr. Elite has 12 kills and 21 deaths.

Against the planes that he admittedly can "easily out-turn":

P-51D 2 kills, 2 deaths
F4U-1 1 kill
F6F-5 1 death
P-38J 1 death
P-38L 1 kill
Spit IX 1 kill
Spit XVI 1 kill, 1 death

Those are some pretty small sample sizes from which to draw such conclusive conclusions.

you need to look harder.

[Tyrannis]

puhleez, your 18 and arguing with a kid, thats pathetic, your pathetic. if you want your damn proof, get me an accound and ill do it for ya. i took training for 4 months in the TA with some of the best jug pilots (lepape2 taught me most of the stuff i know) around. if i "spilled so much bs" then why cant you prove it?

Actually im 19, and if your NOT spilling B.S than prove it with a vid of you doing what you claim you can.

You have 1 f6f kill. ONE. that is no wheres close to having enough experience to state the claims your trying to pass here.

If you trained with lepape2 and some of the "best" jug pilots, Then have them come in here and Back up what your claiming. They have alot more experience in the p47s than You do, so if they were to say what Your trying to, It would be alot more believable than it is coming from you.

[BaldEagl]

you need to look harder.

No.  Really I don't.  Those were your four last LW tours, presumably at the peak of your skills.

[BaldEagl]

Tyrannis, I'm done with this poseur but to answer your question since I've posted so much already the Jug is a plane you'll have to hold speed and/or E with to be successful.  It flys a lot like the 190's in that speed and roll rate are your friends but the roll rate doesn't compare with the 190's.  On the other hand the plane is so massive that, while it's not a great climber it has tremendous diving and zoom climb capabilites.  You can turn with it a bit but you'll have to relax the joystick to hold speed and exit while you still have speed.  Also, like the 190's, it's got awsome firepower and you can use it's roll rate to positon for a killing snapshot.  If you do get slow you'll wallow but if you still have enough E to get over the top you can use a vertical roll reversal with flaps out to come around pretty quickly.  If you do this you'll have to extend afterward in a dive to regain E and get seperation but I'm sure skorpion could have told you these things.   

[BaldEagl]

You have 1 f6f kill. ONE.

Look more closely.  That was a death, not a kill.

[Tyrannis]

Tyrannis, I'm done with this poseur but to answer your question since I've posted so much already the Jug is a plane you'll have to hold speed and/or E with to be successful.  It flys a lot like the 190's in that speed and roll rate are your friends but the roll rate doesn't compare with the 190's.  On the other hand the plane is so massive that, while it's not a great climber it has tremendous diving and zoom climb capabilites.  You can turn with it a bit but you'll have to relax the joystick to hold speed and exit while you still have speed.  Also, like the 190's, it's got awsome firepower and you can use it's roll rate to positon for a killing snapshot.  If you do get slow you'll wallow but if you still have enough E to get over the top you can use a vertical roll reversal with flaps out to come around pretty quickly.  If you do this you'll have to extend afterward in a dive to regain E and get seperation but I'm sure skorpion could have told you these things.   

Sadly im a mouse flyer   But thank you for the advice, Usually took the 6+50's option but i'll be taking the 8 now. Sorry for the unnecessary drama   If ever your free and possably are up to some practise showing me the Maneuver. feel free to drop me a msg. Would be glad to watch&learn 

[skorpion]

Actually im 19 (thats even more pathetic, do you even have a life?) and if your NOT spilling B.S than prove it with a vid of you doing what you claim you can.

are you mentally impaired? "i dont have an online account" should have been clear enough. but obviously, your thick skull didnt let it through. so how can i prove it? i could prove it if i had the time and the cash to get online, but it would be a waste trying to keep it with my normal stuff such as school, unpacking, homework, taking care of my little bro and sis for 3 hours until mom gets home and finally cleaning up after them. that normally leaves about an hour before i usually go to bed for school the next day (around 11:30) now, do all of that, and tell me how well you do it.

[Tyrannis]

are you mentally impaired? "i dont have an online account" should have been clear enough. but obviously, your thick skull didnt let it through. so how can i prove it? i could prove it if i had the time and the cash to get online, but it would be a waste trying to keep it with my normal stuff such as school, unpacking, homework, taking care of my little bro and sis for 3 hours until mom gets home and finally cleaning up after them. that normally leaves about an hour before i usually go to bed for school the next day (around 11:30) now, do all of that, and tell me how well you do it.

im not going to get into another Pointless argument with you skorpion, Just drop it.

[BaldEagl]

i could prove it if i had the time and the cash to get online, but it would be a waste trying to keep it with my normal stuff such as school, unpacking, homework, taking care of my little bro and sis for 3 hours until mom gets home and finally cleaning up after them. that normally leaves about an hour before i usually go to bed for school the next day (around 11:30) now, do all of that, and tell me how well you do it.

Please.  I leave home between 8:30-9:00 AM to go to work.  I get home between 9:30 and 11:00 PM most days.  I make my own meals, run errands, clean the house, mow the lawn, work on my cars, etc., etc, etc.

I know you're just a kid but somehow I'm not feeling sorry for you.