Arena setting to limit bomber drones to cruise settings

[gyrene81]

that's up to the squads...the good squads form up and adjust speed to keep everyone together. the rest, well once again someone is trying to artificially force behavior modification...like passing a law about walking and texting. 

[Ardy123]

Sounds like to me we don't have the correct aircraft for the FSO. If the bombers are too fast, its probably because we are using a '43 variant of a bomber and trying to attack it with '39 era fighter. I would suggest pushing for some more early war bomber variants.

[Karnak]

that's up to the squads...the good squads form up and adjust speed to keep everyone together. the rest, well once again someone is trying to artificially force behavior modification...like passing a law about walking and texting. 

Try actually reading and thinking.

Sounds like to me we don't have the correct aircraft for the FSO. If the bombers are too fast, its probably because we are using a '43 variant of a bomber and trying to attack it with '39 era fighter. I would suggest pushing for some more early war bomber variants.

The Ju88A-4 is a 1940 version that fought in the Battle of Britain.  The problem is that bombers fly at full throttle at all times, not that we have the wrong versions.

[Ardy123]

The Ju88A-4 is a 1940 version that fought in the Battle of Britain.  The problem is that bombers fly at full throttle at all times, not that we have the wrong versions.

  Like the battle of Britain where the JU-88*4 is just to fast for those poor spit1's and hurri1's.

That doesn't even make sense, look at the numbers

[Shifty]

If you wish for realistic bomb runs down to a T then i invite you to join any of the numerous Bombing scenarios/Events.

But your gonna cry realism in the MA's? ok, in that case.

-I want a dive limiter on all Heavy bombers. Lancstuaka arent realistic. Therefore they need a limit.

-Tigers and panthers and panzers never fought alongside T34s/shermans. Therefore i want each tanks nationality limited to a certain country only, to make it more realistic.

-No sherman can ever park itself on the edge of a beach and fire upon a CV group. No tank sunk a CV in WWII. Therefore they are not aloud to in the MA. To make it more realistic.

-Unperk everything. "Perks" never existed in WWII. therefore they shouldnt be in this game.

I believe my point is pretty clear, But i can keep going if you need me to.

Says the guy requesting perks for scouting. 

[Tyrannis]

Says the guy requesting perks for scouting. 

scouting occured thousands of times in ww2.

I requested perkies because we do have perkies in the system and if i ever want to up a tiger i DO have to earn some whether i like it or not.

[skorpion]

aaaaaaand another thread hijacked that will spin out of control and finally crash and burn.



-1 to the OP. 

the spits are faster than the JU88 at all heights, so, whatchya talkin' bout boy? 

scouting occured thousands of times in ww2.

I requested perkies because we do have perkies in the system and if i ever want to up a tiger i DO have to earn some whether i like it or not.

as for this, no. you made it just so you can get "m0aR p3rKz!"  of course it happened IRL, but do you think they were rewarded for doing their job? no. they werent. so, bad idea.


back on topic now?

to the OP, your trying to force your way of flying onto others (somewhat) and let me explain. your saying that bombers almost never flew full throttle on bombing runs. great, but this game is about modeling historically correct planes/boats/vehicles. the way the player plays is their problem, not HTC's because they cant control what throttle they fly at. the way we have it now is fine, and if the spits/hurri's obviously keep up with the bombers then nothing is wrong at all. if you want to fly "100% historically correct" at a scenario then by all means do it. its really up to your teammates wether or not to fly "100% historically correct" because they have the freedom to do so. if this really bugs you, then talk to the CM thats running the event and see if he/she will actually do this just for you so you dont have to deal with the innacuracy that takes place each and every day in the pixel world known as aces high.

[Tyrannis]

aaaaaaand another thread hijacked that will spin out of control and finally crash and burn.



-1 to the OP. 

the spits are faster than the JU88 at all heights, so, whatchya talkin' bout boy? 
as for this, no. you made it just so you can get "m0aR p3rKz!"  of course it happened IRL, but do you think they were rewarded for doing their job? no. they werent. so, bad idea.

Your a complete moron. I just facepalmed.

[skorpion]

Your a complete moron. I just facepalmed.

so your saying the guys who scouted in real life got paid extra for this?  i think that your the moron for not reading what it actually meant here.

so in the end, your the one getting all the facepalms.

[Tyrannis]

so your saying the guys who scouted in real life got= paid extra for this?  i think that your the moron for not reading what it actually meant here.

Idk why i expect a 14yr old to know what he's talking about. i really really dont.


But lets shush skorpion before you derail yet another topic.

[skorpion]

Idk why i expect a 14yr old to know what he's talking about. i really really dont.


But lets shush skorpion before you derail yet another topic.

oh, dont back out now. your saying the troops who were assigned to do scouting got paid extra IRL.

you obviously underestimate younger persons knowledge.

[Karnak]

skorpion,

In the context of the MAs, I agree with you and even said as much in the OP.  That is why I requested it as an arena setting.  Its purpose would be for events and such that are supposed to be more historically accurate.

Hurricane Mk Is did not get a single pass and then a long tail chase against Ju88s in reality.  The speed of the bombers also exaggerates the shooting time they have against attacking fighters in any sort of rear approach.

The fact is that, other than the Russians, bombers did not fight at full throttle and fighters did.  For scenarios that are supposed to be more realistic it would be nice to have a tool to try to enforce that.

[skorpion]

skorpion,

In the context of the MAs, I agree with you and even said as much in the OP.  That is why I requested it as an arena setting.  Its purpose would be for events and such that are supposed to be more historically accurate.

Hurricane Mk Is did not get a single pass and then a long tail chase against Ju88s in reality.  The speed of the bombers also exaggerates the shooting time they have against attacking fighters in any sort of rear approach.

The fact is that, other than the Russians, bombers did not fight at full throttle and fighters did.  For scenarios that are supposed to be more realistic it would be nice to have a tool to try to enforce that.

i understand your all for realism, as am i, but do you know how hard it would be to code that into the game? VERY difficult. its like trying to code in a limiter on your desires, and nobody can controll those. it just wouldnt be worth the time for HTC to model it.

[Tyrannis]

oh, dont back out now. your saying the troops who were assigned to do scouting got paid extra IRL.

you obviously underestimate younger persons knowledge.

I think i over estimate it,actually.

You keep saying the main point and you dont even realize it.

paid extra
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did they get PAID EXTRA? You saying that alone is you confirming that they did get PAID for what they did period. Scouts in AH? they get nothing. no perks, no "pay" nothing.

So if you want to go the "real life" route, i can just as easily say that Scouts got paid in rl. Scouts in AH dont get paid at all. therefore they deserve perkies.

Now skorpion, shut up already. We dont need another thread derailed because you feel you need to prove some point that not even yourself know what it is.

[Karnak]

i understand your all for realism, as am i, but do you know how hard it would be to code that into the game? VERY difficult. its like trying to code in a limiter on your desires, and nobody can controll those. it just wouldnt be worth the time for HTC to model it.

I think it would be very hard to code it for the player's bomber.  It would not be particularly hard to do so for the drones.