Arena setting to limit bomber drones to cruise settings

[Karnak]

Based on save's post in the Aircraft and Vehicles forum, I would like to see an option added to limit bomber drones to flying on cruise settings when they are not taking off or climbing.  Doing so would at least give the player the choice to fly fast and solo or at a cruise with the drones.  While this would not be appropriate for the MAs as bombers there are already basically free kills, it could be useful for the AvA, Custom Arenas and perhaps scenarios.

[Raptor05121]

-1

Learn to fly fast

[10thmd]

+1.      This would help tremendously in fso's.   Like the battle of Britain where the JU-88*4 is just to fast for those poor spit1's and hurri1's.

[Pigslilspaz]

-1

Learn to fly fast

If I'm right, bombers never flew at full throttle in large formations (which the formation enabled planes flew in)

[SmokinLoon]

If I'm right, bombers never flew at full throttle in large formations (which the formation enabled planes flew in)

You are very correct.  B24's dropped at roughly 220 TAS in the south PTO.   

There are a LOT of factors in AH that lend towards the ability of bombers to fly at max throttle and have not a worry in the world:

Auto pilot. No wind. No fuel/range issues. No death.  Etc Etc Etc.  HTC could easily put in a "max speed" for being able to drop bombs.  Some bombers are going to be faster, namely the B29 because it NEEDS speed to stay aloft.  But B17's, B24's, Lancs, B26's, etc etc, should not be dropping ords at 280 TAS.

I think this idea has merit.  I've vouched for it for a long time.

[guncrasher]

If I'm right, bombers never flew at full throttle in large formations (which the formation enabled planes flew in)

that is true, however, it was only due to fuel as in ww2 they flew hundreds of miles and many hours to get there. same as for fighters, they didnt go everywhere at full throttle, specially the Japanese who were always proud of how little fuel they used in their sorties.

semp

[Karnak]

that is true, however, it was only due to fuel as in ww2 they flew hundreds of miles and many hours to get there. same as for fighters, they didnt go everywhere at full throttle, specially the Japanese who were always proud of how little fuel they used in their sorties.

semp

Fighters went full throttle in combat.  Most bombers did not.  I know the Russians were fond of using full power for the whole flight on just about everything, but the Russians have always been a little blunt.

[Tyrannis]

-100

Sounds to much like a request to slow bombers down so there easier to intercept to me.

[SmokinLoon]

-100

Sounds to much like a request to slow bombers down so there easier to intercept to me.

You're so right.  It has nothing to do with mimicking the actual limitations of the real bombing runs.  The bombers are going to get intercepted regardless.      

[Tyrannis]

You're so right.  It has nothing to do with mimicking the actual limitations of the real bombing runs.  The bombers are going to get intercepted regardless.      

If you wish for realistic bomb runs down to a T then i invite you to join any of the numerous Bombing scenarios/Events.

But your gonna cry realism in the MA's? ok, in that case.

-I want a dive limiter on all Heavy bombers. Lancstuaka arent realistic. Therefore they need a limit.

-Tigers and panthers and panzers never fought alongside T34s/shermans. Therefore i want each tanks nationality limited to a certain country only, to make it more realistic.

-No sherman can ever park itself on the edge of a beach and fire upon a CV group. No tank sunk a CV in WWII. Therefore they are not aloud to in the MA. To make it more realistic.

-Unperk everything. "Perks" never existed in WWII. therefore they shouldnt be in this game.

I believe my point is pretty clear, But i can keep going if you need me to.

[gyrene81]

the real life bombers did a lot of things that don't happen in ah, and they didn't do a lot of things that do happen in ah...this wish is a whine. of all the times that "it's a game, get over it" gets tossed around, it fits this wish.

aside from fuel constraints, there were a dozen different reasons for bombers to not fly at full throttle for the entire mission, but those reasons don't generally exist in ah...especially in the main arenas. there aren't 300 plane formations of bombers doing 8-10 hour bomb runs. there aren't that many players who even know how to maintain a formation for longer than 5 minutes. bomb sight calibration is much easier in ah than in real life. dropping bombs on military bases was generally performed by fighters and light or medium bombers, not big heavy four engine bombers.

trying to artificially force someone on a bomb run to lower his level flight speed for whatever reason yet still allowing all the other gamey crap that happens in ah is just silly...

[ImADot]

No sherman can ever park itself on the edge of a beach and fire upon a CV group. No tank sunk a CV in WWII. Therefore they are not aloud to in the MA. To make it more realistic.

No CV group was parked 1000 yards offshore from an enemy base during combat either. Therefore they should not be allowed to do it in the game either.  But, that's another old and tired set of threads...

[RTHolmes]

this is pretty easily sorted for special events where you can restict bombers to certain fields and fuel loadouts - give the buffs just enough fuel to climb under full power, then cruise to target and back. theres no reason for the buffs to be flying at unhistoric speeds in events, wont work in the MA tho ...

[Karnak]

Yeesh.  A whole bunch of people can't read evidently.

I was bleepin' upfront about the fact that this would not be for the MAs.  It says it right there in the OP.  Stop whining about something that isn't being requested.

[PFactorDave]

+1.      This would help tremendously in fso's.   Like the battle of Britain where the JU-88*4 is just to fast for those poor spit1's and hurri1's.

^This

It would help FSO tremendously.  It would force bombers to form up in the same defensive formations that were used in the war instead of simply running flat out to target and back.