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Offline Tyrannis

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2011, 05:48:55 PM »
realalisticly is what i meant, as in where you have places the spots there are ack in some of those.

as for your stupidity, it continues.and read what i said.if you havent noticed, its in this thread that your saying is getting derailed. :rolleyes: you fail. again.
Ok, im seriously done argueing with such a naive child. You keep running circles around your own words. Get proven wrong on one thing, instead of just saying "im wrong your right, sorry" your find some new B.S logic to spill here.

Im getting tired of pointing out just how dumb you are. I understand your just a child, but still. You dont know what your talking about. SOOOo many people have told you this in multiple threads. Yet you continue to speak  :bhead

You should really of taken Inks advice on "being like a spongE" Meaning shut up, and learn, Instead of pretending like you know what your talking about.

So im done proving your idiocy. Have fun thinking your right, Your the only one who does. Oh, and Heres a dancing banana  :banana:
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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2011, 05:50:28 PM »
Ok, im seriously done argueing with such a naive child. You keep running circles around your own words. Get proven wrong on one thing, instead of just saying "im wrong your right, sorry" your find some new B.S logic to spill here.

Im getting tired of pointing out just how dumb you are. I understand your just a child, but still. You dont know what your talking about. SOOOo many people have told you this in multiple threads. Yet you continue to speak  :bhead

You should really of taken Inks advice on "being like a spongE" Meaning shut up, and learn, Instead of pretending like you know what your talking about.

So im done proving your idiocy. Have fun thinking your right, Your the only one who does. Oh, and Heres a dancing banana  :banana:
Ib4ohyourjustbutthurtblahblah blah.
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let me show you how immature you really are. continuing to be a little child about things. just funny.

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2011, 05:52:48 PM »
Actually it did both see combat and was part of The Luftwaffe's only helicopter squadron.
OK it meets the criteria of squadron strength since only 3 made it to any operational squadron.

I can't find anything about combat though so whats the source on that & what did they do.

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« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2011, 06:05:26 PM »
OK it meets the criteria of squadron strength since only 3 made it to any operational squadron.

I can't find anything about combat though so whats the source on that & what did they do.
I cant really find a 100% answer to the combat question. Some  sites say it took part in various combat rescue missions and long range reconescence(Yea, spelling sucks, shame on me). Others say it never saw did this.

They do all agree tho it took part in an attempted rescue of people trapped from snow, But crashed due to poor weather.

Many Draches were bombed tho. So if you count being bombed as being part of "combat" then thats its official combat history  :angel:

The varients were:
Fa 223A - for anti-submarine warfare, to carry 2 x 250 kg (550 lb) bombs or depth charges.
Fa 223B - for reconnaissance missions; fitted with a jettisonable fuel tank.
Fa 223C - for search and rescue duties, fitted with a steel winch cable.
Fa 223D - freight variant, for resupplying mountain troops.
Fa 223E - dual-control trainer.

But from watching various videos on it, I believe only the C,and D models were ever produced and maybe 1 A model.

Cool video on it:
http://videosift.com/video/Focke-Achgelis-Fa-223-World-s-First-CSAR-Helicopter-1941


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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2011, 06:09:08 PM »
I really don't think Tyrannis read the site he linked to, otherwise he would have known what lyric1 pointed out about only 3 actually making it to operational service.  He also would have known that the only time the Fa 223 carried supplies or troops was during it's flight trials and not in operational service.  He also would have known that the only time the Fa 223 saw combat was when a Fa 223 crew was sent in a special mission from Hitler and flew over the Soviet forces as they were over running Danzig.  The only rescue flight flown ended in disaster with the crew killed, though the stranded hikers were saved.  

I believe the Fa 223 only had something around 400 flying hours total for the 10 or so that were eventually flown.  Transportstaffel 40 didn't have time to use the Fa 223 for supply or rescue missions as they were spending most of their time trying to keep ahead of the Soviet forces.  Although no military records survive from Transportstaffel 40 that can officially debunk the myth that the Fa 223 was performing rescue and supply missions, from memoirs of surviving members of that squadron, none have mentioned the Fa 223 being used in the supply role.

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2011, 06:20:32 PM »
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Actually, the site i posted with the video claims the 223 WAS sent out on a combat rescue mission in 1945 when it traveled behind enemy lines to rescue a downed 190 pilot.

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2011, 07:52:13 PM »
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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2011, 09:07:56 PM »
let me show you how immature you really are. continuing to be a little child about things. just funny.
im sorry skorp but everytime i see you in the wishlist you try to flame someone even when you are proven wrong. and i gotta say one thing to this, when were there helipad's in WWII? :lol

second off a simple change of placement of an object would give plenty of room to put a heli hanger on the fields
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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2011, 09:18:30 PM »
im sorry skorp but everytime i see you in the wishlist you try to flame someone even when you are proven wrong. and i gotta say one thing to this, when were there helipad's in WWII? :lol

second off a simple change of placement of an object would give plenty of room to put a heli hanger on the fields
when did i say there were helipads in WW2? :headscratch:

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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2011, 09:28:13 PM »
when did i say there were helipads in WW2? :headscratch:
who said it was just you talking about helipads?
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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2011, 09:29:20 PM »
who said it was just you talking about helipads?
ahh i read the post wrong, thought you said it to me, not the entire thread.

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2011, 09:50:40 PM »

what lyric1 pointed out about only 3 actually making it to operational service.  ack-ack

Actually I can't even find that. I can see three made it to a squadron I can see the other type of helicopter that was also used for spotting. That was a surprise to me as I knew this aircraft existed did not know they actually were used in a combat situation where they did reconnaissance. I can't find anything about this model actually doing something.

You could make the assumption that it may have operated as a spotter as well how ever?

Interesting information if nothing else to me as I learned something I did not know today.

Since at this point no proof of actual combat is available I would say the Japanese aircraft is still the only one that might see the light of day.

Keep digging Tyrannis if you want to put it in the running find more info other than the internet look for some books German would be your best chance.

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2011, 10:52:54 PM »
Actually I can't even find that. I can see three made it to a squadron I can see the other type of helicopter that was also used for spotting. That was a surprise to me as I knew this aircraft existed did not know they actually were used in a combat situation where they did reconnaissance. I can't find anything about this model actually doing something.



This is the brief history of the Fa 223 with Transportstaffel 40.

Transportstaffel 40 and the Last Days War

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2011, 02:46:08 AM »
the C47 and the jeep are in the game because both carry troops/supplies.

thus meaning they served in combat. you=

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Re: Havent requested this in ALONG time...
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2011, 03:35:39 AM »
Thread title makes me  :bhead

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