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Offline PFactorDave

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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2011, 04:24:39 PM »
Joach1m I like those but they're more of flick it and hope the nose follows the perfect path. The tailslide I did is able to be controlled.

I would be interested to hear you describe the control inputs to do that Krup.

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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2011, 04:30:27 PM »
I would be interested to hear you describe the control inputs to do that Krup.

Pull up in a slight right turn, when plane reaches 120mph flick ailerons to the left and reduce to 50% throttle. Use rudder and throttle after that to point the nose where you want it to go. Plane should easily recover if done correctly.

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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2011, 06:24:47 PM »
Joach1m I like those but they're more of flick it and hope the nose follows the perfect path. The tailslide I did is able to be controlled.
in my opinion no tailslide is controlled, it can only be altered.
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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2011, 06:30:15 PM »
I could do a similar move in the F6F, spit 16, and RV8 but nothing I would be able to control enough to be of that much use, but I guess it's more of a desperate maneuver anyways. Other than tail slides, the only trick move I use in combat is the Cobra maneuver. It works best in the spit 16 but you can also do it in the F6F. Start off below 300 mph level, all in one motion go full right rudder, full back elevator, and use neutral to right aileron to control the maneuver. With a lot of time to perfect it the plane will quickly enter a 90+ degree angle of attack, and then by pushing the stick forward it will hopefully regain a normal AoA. However, if you pull back too long you'll start going backwards and lose any control. I would say the whole move lasts about 4-5 secs. While using this I've had the plane go from about 280 mph down to 150 in a few seconds, which could be useful if you have an enemy on your 6.

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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2011, 06:40:31 PM »
I could do a similar move in the F6F, spit 16, and RV8 but nothing I would be able to control enough to be of that much use, but I guess it's more of a desperate maneuver anyways. Other than tail slides, the only trick move I use in combat is the Cobra maneuver. It works best in the spit 16 but you can also do it in the F6F. Start off below 300 mph level, all in one motion go full right rudder, full back elevator, and use neutral to right aileron to control the maneuver. With a lot of time to perfect it the plane will quickly enter a 90+ degree angle of attack, and then by pushing the stick forward it will hopefully regain a normal AoA. However, if you pull back too long you'll start going backwards and lose any control. I would say the whole move lasts about 4-5 secs. While using this I've had the plane go from about 280 mph down to 150 in a few seconds, which could be useful if you have an enemy on your 6.
basically spinning to kill all your E?
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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2011, 06:43:01 PM »
No, it's not a spin or a cartwheel or anything, it's one controlled motion if you get it right. The AoA increases to about 90+ degrees and then levels out again, so by the end of the move you basically stay at the same alt you started.

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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2011, 06:44:26 PM »
im confused. If u pull full back with right rudder, nuetral-right airleron it wont stall?
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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2011, 06:44:41 PM »
I guess you can say the whole surface area of the wing acts like a giant parachute.

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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2011, 06:46:04 PM »
I guess you can say the whole surface area of the wing acts like a giant parachute.
spit16's do it best u say?
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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2011, 06:49:39 PM »
Yea, it's easiest at lower speeds so try it around 200 mph first. I have a film of it on multiple occasions but I don't know how to post it on here.

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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2011, 06:50:56 PM »
Yea, it's easiest at lower speeds so try it around 200 mph first. I have a film of it on multiple occasions but I don't know how to post it on here.
ill try it out...


to post films make a mediafire account...its free too! :aok
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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2011, 08:50:08 PM »
Yeah Jos right none can really be controlled.  Some just look cooler than others :)
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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2011, 09:25:56 PM »
Practice.  :banana:

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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2011, 12:04:31 PM »
Practice.  :banana:
:rofl :rofl

We had a guy or 2  :lol in AW that did something very similar.  He said the same thing. We called him spindweeb. Controlled spin , more of a catch with the rudder.


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Re: wow... nice trick
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2011, 01:12:53 PM »
Ive never been lepaped yet thats my goal!
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