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« Reply #285 on: October 18, 2011, 05:18:23 PM »








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« Reply #286 on: October 18, 2011, 05:20:03 PM »
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« Reply #287 on: October 18, 2011, 07:52:51 PM »
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complete exhaust system from turbo back with cats eliminated (Magnaflow pipes, APR 3" downpipe)


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If you have no cats, what are the silver cylinders that the pipes are attached to 1/3 of the way back from the front?  Fake kitties? 
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Re: Show us your favorite photo of your personal vehicle...
« Reply #288 on: October 18, 2011, 08:32:50 PM »
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If you have no cats, what are the silver cylinders that the pipes are attached to 1/3 of the way back from the front?  Fake kitties?  

Magnaflow Mufflers. The cat on the stock system was directly bolted to the turbo, its a down pipe and cat in one.


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« Reply #289 on: October 18, 2011, 09:13:17 PM »
No fine, 100% legal in my state. and it makes a HUGE performance difference especially on these cars which have a very very restrictive cat.

And you are wrong.  The EPA is a FEDERAL AGENCY.  Driving a vehicle with tampered emissions systems is against EPA laws and is thus a FEDERAL crime.  Just because there aren't emissions inspections where you live doesn't make it any more legal to remove emissions control devices... (it only makes it harder to be caught).

I will warn you though they have been cracking down on this lately.  The more popular these little rice burners with loud fart mufflers get the more they're checking into these sorts of things.  Just fair warning.

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« Reply #290 on: October 18, 2011, 09:15:27 PM »
I"m thinking about trading Betsy in on this gem.   only have to extend my loan for 24 more months...

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« Reply #291 on: October 18, 2011, 09:17:49 PM »
Magnaflow Mufflers. The cat on the stock system was directly bolted to the turbo, its a down pipe and cat in one.

I'm almost 100% sure those are resonators, not cats


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« Reply #292 on: October 18, 2011, 09:22:54 PM »
i know i didn't have to look it up. i diagnose and fix this stuff for a living. i know the laws. but you know how it is in here......say something like that, and suddenly everyone wants proof. so i simply put the regs in there with my post.

 here in nj, besides regular inspection stations, there's mobile ones too. they set up points, and pull people over randomly. they built these mobile stations at the ford dealer right down the street from my shop. i'm sure nj isn't the only state doing this.

I love how he claims that having no cats is "100% legal" in his state.. and when called on his bluff instead he's all like "yeah well I knew that but I know I won't get caught" yadda yadda yadda

They don't understand how us professionals take offense to people who break laws like this when we're required to adhere to those exact same laws with customer's cars (and our own), ESPECIALLY when breaking those laws does absolutely nothing to help with the performance of their vehicles!

Oh well what comes around goes around.

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« Reply #293 on: October 18, 2011, 09:46:17 PM »
I'm almost 100% sure those are resonators, not cats

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Re: Show us your favorite photo of your personal vehicle...
« Reply #294 on: October 18, 2011, 09:50:57 PM »
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I love how he claims that having no cats is "100% legal" in his state.. and when called on his bluff instead he's all like "yeah well I knew that but I know I won't get caught" yadda yadda yadda

That's not how I meant to come across at all. I did at the time think it was legal in my state. once he showed it was not. I explained how down here it is common practice, even by law enfocment officers, which is why I thought it was OK. However I did also explain how I'm not going to worry about it, and I'm certainly not running out to put them back on. If I get pulled over by a cop that actually know his head from his butt, and I do get a ticket then I will accept it, pay it and go about my day.
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« Reply #295 on: October 18, 2011, 10:18:00 PM »
That's not how I meant to come across at all. I did at the time think it was legal in my state. once he showed it was not. I explained how down here it is common practice, even by law enfocment officers, which is why I thought it was OK. However I did also explain how I'm not going to worry about it, and I'm certainly not running out to put them back on. If I get pulled over by a cop that actually know his head from his butt, and I do get a ticket then I will accept it, pay it and go about my day.

it's not the police you need to worry about. believe it or not, half of them don't know the majority of the laws/regs that they try to enforce. this is not meant to be derogatory towards police, it just is what it is.

 it's the epa you need to worry about. sooner or later, the state will start doing some form of checks. be it mobile inspection stations, roadside sniffers(and yes, these can and will be able to tell that there is no cat just by how much of which gases your car is producing), or even state police forming a special unit, such as they have for commercial vehicles here in nj.

 tigger is correct too........although there was a day that i did all of that stupid stuff, i learned better, not by getting caught(never did), but rather by learning how and why a car runs. by learning how a computer controls the various engine management systems, and why it does things that it does. this is why people that i used to call for help all the time now call me.

 i really wasn't trying to "rail" on ya, and although it's well documented on this very bbs how much i loath audis, that is still a beautiful car. it would totally suck to see such a beauty get impounded for something as stupid as a missing  catalytic converter.

 incidentally, i just put a new cat on a passat 1.8 today. it only has 98k on it, and the catalyst was seriously broken apart and mostly missing inside.
 i'm working on a cylinder head right now on an 03 a4 quattro. it had a wiped out exhaust cam, the woodruff key, which is integral to the cam drive gear on this setup was about to break off, and about half the valves were bent from the broken timing belt. i have front end of this car apart in order to get at the timing belt. this one only has 118k miles on it.  this is the first one of these i've done....and it will be the last. i truly believe german engineers are sadists. there can be no other answer for the stuff they do.

 i got another question for ya now........you don't have a "CEL" shining in your face all the time from the removal of the cat(s)? the obd2 system has upstream and downstream o2's. it should be tripping codes like mad without cats.

 and in all seriousness, i'd be feel fairly safe to say that if you logged your mileage for the next 3 months, and checked your 1/4 mile times, top speed etc., then installed the factory performance cat, you'd see no decrease in performance, and most likely an increase in mileage, as now the computers will control the systems much better. 
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Re: Show us your favorite photo of your personal vehicle...
« Reply #296 on: October 18, 2011, 10:47:10 PM »
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i got another question for ya now........you don't have a "CEL" shining in your face all the time from the removal of the cat(s)? the obd2 system has upstream and downstream o2's. it should be tripping codes like mad without cats.

No codes, No check engine light. The computer has been properly tuned. in fact to run the tune that I have and the boost settings I have, according to the manufactor (Revo), I have to have the "Cat eliminator downpipe"  I dont know why i'm not the mechanic just the driver.



 
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and in all seriousness, i'd be feel fairly safe to say that if you logged your mileage for the next 3 months, and checked your 1/4 mile times, top speed etc., then installed the factory performance cat, you'd see no decrease in performance, and most likely an increase in mileage, as now the computers will control the systems much better.
Acording to the guys that built the car, who seem to really know what they are talking about, there is a difference ON THIS CAR between having them and not. I've seen American muscle where I agree 100% a good set of flow through cats are highly effective.


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ncidentally, i just put a new cat on a passat 1.8 today. it only has 98k on it, and the catalyst was seriously broken apart and mostly missing inside.
 i'm working on a cylinder head right now on an 03 a4 quattro. it had a wiped out exhaust cam, the woodruff key, which is integral to the cam drive gear on this setup was about to break off, and about half the valves were bent from the broken timing belt. i have front end of this car apart in order to get at the timing ibelt. this one only has 118k miles on it.  this is the first one of these i've done....and it will be the last. i truly believe german engineers are sadists. there can be no other answer for the stuff they do.

1.8t is completely different engine. not even the same block.
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« Reply #297 on: October 19, 2011, 04:52:38 AM »
I put a magnaflow on the wrangler a few months ago because it was stainless.  It is between the tub and the shovel (er... transfer case skidplate) where a lot of debris, mud, etc accumulates and is murder on steel mufflers.

It costed me $5 less than a stock muffler, sounds great and there is not a speck of rust on it.  :aok
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« Reply #298 on: October 19, 2011, 06:28:55 AM »
it's not the police you need to worry about. believe it or not, half of them don't know the majority of the laws/regs that they try to enforce. this is not meant to be derogatory towards police, it just is what it is.

 it's the epa you need to worry about. sooner or later, the state will start doing some form of checks. be it mobile inspection stations, roadside sniffers(and yes, these can and will be able to tell that there is no cat just by how much of which gases your car is producing), or even state police forming a special unit, such as they have for commercial vehicles here in nj.

There is no vehicle inspection here in SC. just like any other law, if there is no means of enforcement, the law isn't worth the paper it's written on, in practical terms. If they ever change that here in SC and go back to vehicle inspections and emmission testing, I'll worry about it.

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tigger is correct too........although there was a day that i did all of that stupid stuff, i learned better, not by getting caught(never did), but rather by learning how and why a car runs. by learning how a computer controls the various engine management systems, and why it does things that it does. this is why people that i used to call for help all the time now call me.

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 i got another question for ya now........you don't have a "CEL" shining in your face all the time from the removal of the cat(s)? the obd2 system has upstream and downstream o2's. it should be tripping codes like mad without cats.

 and in all seriousness, i'd be feel fairly safe to say that if you logged your mileage for the next 3 months, and checked your 1/4 mile times, top speed etc., then installed the factory performance cat, you'd see no decrease in performance, and most likely an increase in mileage, as now the computers will control the systems much better. 

Anyone who really knows their way aound the inside of the engine management computer, fuel curves, and tuning can easiy squeeze more hp and torque out of a car (at least chevy LS motors) without cats as opposed to even premium hi-flow cats. My engine guy that did the tuning on my '99 Vette for got over 550 very streetable hp out of my stock bottom end with no cats and it passed the sniffer test.... it's all in the tune and the guy setting it up. The Corvette has 4 O2 sensors too, two upstream and 2 downstream. A set of resistors fooled the ecu into thinking the downsream ones were reporting normal numbers, so no codes. The only way you'd know the cats weren't there, other thn visual inspection, was the car was LOUD with the Corsa stainless mufflers, coupled with the LG Motorsports long-tube headers and x-pipe, so loud we had to go back to Z06 titanium mufflers to quiet it down to the point that it didn't sound like NASCAR coming down main street.

If you don't see improved performance in every category from the removal of the cats, including mileage, you have the wrong guy doing your dyno tuning. Simple as that.
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Re: Show us your favorite photo of your personal vehicle...
« Reply #299 on: October 19, 2011, 07:57:18 AM »
No codes, No check engine light. The computer has been properly tuned. in fact to run the tune that I have and the boost settings I have, according to the manufactor (Revo), I have to have the "Cat eliminator downpipe"  I dont know why i'm not the mechanic just the driver.

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 Acording to the guys that built the car, who seem to really know what they are talking about, there is a difference ON THIS CAR between having them and not. I've seen American muscle where I agree 100% a good set of flow through cats are highly effective.


1.8t is completely different engine. not even the same block.

 ok.....the computer is reprogrammed to not "see" the missing cat. if you were to look that thing up in a catalog, you'd find a disclaimer in there somewhere stating it is intended for "off road" use only. there is nowhere within the continental united states that it is legal to remove the catalytic converter, or any other pollution control device from a road going vehicle.

 i have a customer with a wrx, dyno'd to 540hp at the tires. 100% emissions and street legal, which is his daily driver. cats are still there.

 i'm actually somewhat shocked that you even found a shop that was willing to remove the cat, as i know of none around me that will remove them, nor will they install hollowed out ones.

 
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