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Offline RTHolmes

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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2011, 12:32:38 PM »
if you're already on a CS course why not just use the reading list and do the coursework? :headscratch:
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2011, 12:37:05 PM »
Linux?

 :rofl

No

Go to this Microsoft website and click on developer tools at the center top

https://www.dreamspark.com/

Download either the Visual Studio 2010 or 2008 version (its free)

Install and start the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) and choose either VB or C# Windows Form project for your first project

You will have already created a program that can be run simply by doing this believe it or not.

On the right side of that web page is a column called "Get Training by Reading"...the second link down takes you to this website

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/default.aspx

Click the second option for Windows Forms programming and you will end up at this web page

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/dd435692.aspx

Click the first option and you will be up and running in no time

CAUTION: Programming is Fun and Addicting

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I code in C#(NET)...and have coded in C++ ,VB (NET and 6), Python...and vastly prefer C# to any other language

If you choose C# and the VS 2008 C# Express IDE, I will be happy to help you with your first projects

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PS: Lastly, if you find yourself stumped, far and away the best forum to ask questions (IMHO), or search of answers is Stack Overflow

http://stackoverflow.com/
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2011, 12:53:55 PM »
...

You will have already created a program that can be run simply by doing this believe it or not.

and you've just learnt ... absolutely nothing about programming. which is why the best way to learn is with a text editor, a syntax reference (a book preferably) and a tutor/tutorial. I'd use an interpreted language so you can test what you wrote without messing around with compilers.

if a dev doesnt smile in recognition when you say "hello world" to them, they dont know their stuff ...



the best tool at a programmer's disposal is a piece of scrap paper and a pen.

:aok


edit: if starting from scratch, personally I'd suggest PHP. plenty of good books/tutorials out there, testing is just a matter of refreshing your browser window, you can start with procedural then move onto OO code, plenty of modules for different tasks etc etc.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2011, 12:59:58 PM by RTHolmes »
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 12:57:20 PM »
Slight hijack but I am in my high-school Comp Sci class right now lol...
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 12:59:40 PM »
 :rofl Linux, a command line C compiler and vi for an editor for a beginner?  :rofl :rofl :rofl  You guys forgot to suggest squeezing lemon juice in his eyes before turning on the computer also  :lol
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 01:03:39 PM »
:rofl Linux, a command line C compiler and vi for an editor for a beginner?  :rofl :rofl :rofl  You guys forgot to suggest squeezing lemon juice in his eyes before turning on the computer also  :lol

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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2011, 01:07:05 PM »
BBEdit :P
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2011, 01:20:10 PM »
Hi

I'm a selfmade hobby coder and using a python  :)

You can get it for free from:
http://www.python.org/


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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2011, 01:20:57 PM »
:rofl Linux, a command line C compiler and vi for an editor for a beginner?  :rofl :rofl :rofl  You guys forgot to suggest squeezing lemon juice in his eyes before turning on the computer also  :lol

Better than messing with the API and dlls.

Dos 3.3 and Turbo Pascal v2.0 would be better, but finding the parts might prove a bit daunting.
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2011, 01:21:58 PM »
and you've just learnt ... absolutely nothing about programming. which is why the best way to learn is with a text editor, a syntax reference (a book preferably) and a tutor/tutorial. I'd use an interpreted language so you can test what you wrote without messing around with compilers.

if a dev doesnt smile in recognition when you say "hello world" to them, they dont know their stuff ...



:aok


edit: if starting from scratch, personally I'd suggest PHP. plenty of good books/tutorials out there, testing is just a matter of refreshing your browser window, you can start with procedural then move onto OO code, plenty of modules for different tasks etc etc.

I disagree that a text editor and a text book is the best way to learn

Start a win form, drop a command button on it, wire up the click event, put some code in the handler and output it to a label

Voila...you are a programmer

With a simple click event you can then reach out to functions that either do something and/or return some value

Messing around with text editor and text book is the definition of boring and has turned off more would be programmers than anything




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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2011, 01:23:12 PM »
Better than messing with the API and dlls.

Dos 3.3 and Turbo Pascal v2.0 would be better, but finding the parts might prove a bit daunting.


I have it  :neener:  DOS 3.3 and up to 5.0 I think and Turbo Pascal 4.0 and 5.0.  I think I have a version of Turbo C in there somewhere  too lol.  Now, who has a computer with floppies?  :rofl
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2011, 01:25:18 PM »
Messing around with text editor and text book is the definition of boring and has turned off more would be programmers than anything

the point is to simplify it so all you are doing is thinking about then writing code. if thats boring, you picked the wrong hobby/career.
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2011, 01:33:46 PM »
I have it  :neener:  DOS 3.3 and up to 5.0 I think and Turbo Pascal 4.0 and 5.0.  I think I have a version of Turbo C in there somewhere  too lol.  Now, who has a computer with floppies?  :rofl

OMG I was waiting for someone to reference BCC from back in the day... now all we are waiting for is for someone to suggest dos-4g extender... lol


On a more serious note, start with C or python and you can use either VC (visual studio) or gcc on linux. if you don't like command line editors such as vi/emacs/pico/etc... you can use eclipse +cdt.

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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2011, 01:53:01 PM »
a couple of people in this discussion need to stop inhaling automobile exhaust. visual basic and c# from microsoft? seriously? nobody that wants to actually learn programming or scripting starts off with crippled buggy microsoft crap. not only that but you have a much bigger range of what you can do in linux than you can in winblowz, and it's free. make a mistake in linux, either reboot or recompile...make a mistake in winblowz and spend 6 hours trying not to lose all your files then spend another 8 reloading.
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Re: Want to learn Coding
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2011, 01:58:45 PM »
a couple of people in this discussion need to stop inhaling automobile exhaust. visual basic and c# from microsoft? seriously? nobody that wants to actually learn programming or scripting starts off with crippled buggy microsoft crap. not only that but you have a much bigger range of what you can do in linux than you can in winblowz, and it's free. make a mistake in linux, either reboot or recompile...make a mistake in winblowz and spend 6 hours trying not to lose all your files then spend another 8 reloading.


Right... :rofl

Funny...after coding for 15 years I have never had that experience. Structural errors are always trapped before the Shell launches when testing...and the OS never crashes (XP W7)...as to logic errors they occur no matter what language or method you choose

Go ahead and play with your command line programs

I will stick to the worlds most widely used IDE for the worlds most widely used GUI OS

Linux  :rofl