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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2011, 09:23:38 PM »
And CGI too!

Besides, if somebody was going to make a replica of a ship that was lost with many lives, I would rather see a living memorial of the Arizona.  But it shouldn't happen, and won't.

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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2011, 09:25:33 PM »
The books are cheap, and the lessons pointless and not deep enough, in US history we hardly go over any aspects of world war II

It depends on what you find pointless, and it depends on what grade you are in.  Remember, whatever subject you are required to take, there are always parts that bore you and that goes for everybody.  It doesn't mean they are less necessary.  Besides,how would learning about the titanic in history class really matter in the curriculum sense?
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2011, 09:30:03 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 09:31:50 PM »
Most of the teachers are actually very good - but they dont control the content that is being taught.
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 09:35:08 PM »
Teachers complain about the books alot, and i'm in 10th grade, last year I did World history which was unfortunate because by the end of the last semester we had hardly gotten into the civil war, this year we will hardly go over WWII Which is my favorite history subject to study on.


Fortunately, there is an huge amount of good material out there about WW2.  My advice would be to ask here on the BBS for book suggestions, then craft your Christmas wishlist accordingly.

For me, I was very interested in the Napoleonic wars, especially the naval engagements.  Of course, in the US, such a topic seems to only be granted about a paragraph or two in any High School History class text.  I have a good friend who has an enormous collection of lead napoleaonic miniatures.  I've spent many many hours playing Empire, re-fighting battle after battle.
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 09:46:56 PM »
 within the last two years they have built a complete replica of the nose section of the Titanic. It was made near the same slip Titanic was and was made using the same techniques and technologies.
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2011, 09:47:45 PM »
Fortunately, there is an huge amount of good material out there about WW2.  My advice would be to ask here on the BBS for book suggestions, then craft your Christmas wishlist accordingly.

For me, I was very interested in the Napoleonic wars, especially the naval engagements.  Of course, in the US, such a topic seems to only be granted about a paragraph or two in any High School History class text.  I have a good friend who has an enormous collection of lead napoleaonic miniatures.  I've spent many many hours playing Empire, re-fighting battle after battle.
Christmas budget is super tight this year, so i'll most likely ask for books and dvds on it, I'm particularly interested in the battle of the Bulge.


Most of the teachers are actually very good - but they dont control the content that is being taught.
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within the last two years they have built a complete replica of the nose section of the Titanic. It was made near the same slip Titanic was and was made using the same techniques and technologies.
Could you explain further? I'm confused?

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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2011, 09:55:28 PM »
Could you explain further? I'm confused?
Well... they got men together... got some 1910 steel... the got some rivets and hammers... they made a skeleton... they riveted steel plates onto said skeleton... and WALLAH they had a complete nose section replica of Titanics nose...

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i dont know what else to say... they made a replica of the titanic's nose... i just saw the show this summer, but cant remember if it was done last year or the year before.
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2011, 10:01:36 PM »
"Fortunately, there is an huge amount of good material out there about WW2.  My advice would be to ask here on the BBS for book suggestions, then craft your Christmas wishlist accordingly."

Dave

It's because we have a goodly number of young men that join this game and this site that have to deal with older guys with a case of keyboard courage and and a crap attitude because one of them occasionally steps on their johnson and gets stomped on for it.  

Personally I'd prefer to cultivate these guys and help them into the community as opposed to beating them down in the forums, on text, etc.. These young men, for the most part, share our interests in history, aviation, etc.., and yet I often see somebody being an arse to them for no other reason than they can be.  

Teaching them and sharing knowledge in subject they show interest in (well most of the other guys I can teach them neat bar tricks when they are of age) not only helps them but helps the community as a whole.  Additionally it helps them become more rounded adults and really isn't that what a 'community' is for?

Not picking on you bro because I like and respect you but that was an opening I had to take.

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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2011, 10:06:03 PM »
talking about the old boats, i stayed at the queen mary in longbeach a couple of months ago.  it was pretty cool staying in the cabin.  they cabins are still the same as they were back in the day except they have a plasma tv and unlimited supply of hot/cold water.

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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2011, 10:07:56 PM »
The Titanic wasn't "rebuilt" because it wasn't respectful to the folks that died that night. It wouldn't be the same, would you prefer to fly a replica WW2 plane made with today's metal, gears and engines? Or a true WW2 plane flown by a real pilot? (assuming both are in good conditions). The Titanic was a symbol during it's time, and because it sunk on the maiden voyage, many people thought it would be bad luck to reuse the "symbol".  

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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2011, 10:14:16 PM »
talking about the old boats, i stayed at the queen mary in longbeach a couple of months ago.  it was pretty cool staying in the cabin.  they cabins are still the same as they were back in the day except they have a plasma tv and unlimited supply of hot/cold water.

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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2011, 10:28:34 PM »
"Fortunately, there is an huge amount of good material out there about WW2.  My advice would be to ask here on the BBS for book suggestions, then craft your Christmas wishlist accordingly."

Dave

It's because we have a goodly number of young men that join this game and this site that have to deal with older guys with a case of keyboard courage and and a crap attitude because one of them occasionally steps on their johnson and gets stomped on for it.  

Personally I'd prefer to cultivate these guys and help them into the community as opposed to beating them down in the forums, on text, etc.. These young men, for the most part, share our interests in history, aviation, etc.., and yet I often see somebody being an arse to them for no other reason than they can be.  

Teaching them and sharing knowledge in subject they show interest in (well most of the other guys I can teach them neat bar tricks when they are of age) not only helps them but helps the community as a whole.  Additionally it helps them become more rounded adults and really isn't that what a 'community' is for?

Not picking on you bro because I like and respect you but that was an opening I had to take.

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Wow...   I really wasn't trying to be snarky or anything.  I honestly wasn't trying to brush him off or diminish him in any way.  I was offering honest advice.  Most of what I know about WW2 and the military in general was gained by saving my pennies to buy whatever books I could afford.  Plus a ton of time in the library.  And my Christmas wishlist always has (and still does at age 41) included a few titles that I would like to read.

I was just trying to tell him that where the public school system fails, there is an avenue for someone with the desire to learn to actually learn.  I hope he does seek out the material he is interested in, instead of simply blaming his ignorance on the crappy school system.

All that said, any questions I can answer, I will.  Although, there are many folks far more qualified to comment then I am.

EDIT:  I'm glad to read that you like and respect me.  I hope that that is true.  My ego likes a stroke now and then just like everyone elses.   :D
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2011, 10:44:20 PM »
Well... they got men together... got some 1910 steel... the got some rivets and hammers... they made a skeleton... they riveted steel plates onto said skeleton... and WALLAH they had a complete nose section replica of Titanics nose...

[/sarcastic off]

i dont know what else to say... they made a replica of the titanic's nose... i just saw the show this summer, but cant remember if it was done last year or the year before.
Does it have an interior? I went to the Dollywood Titanic Exhibit a week before school started, never been so emotional in a museum before  :lol They gave us cards about people who were on the ship, I got a first class male, who survived with his kids and wife, my grandmother was a third class woman who died (Before the tour started the guy dressed as Captain smith picked on her for being 3rd, it was hilarious) and my grandfather was a crew member working around the mail rooms and he didn't make it either. Back to my point its the front of the ship on one side and behind that is all the rooms and such poking out but from the left side it looked magnificent.

"Fortunately, there is an huge amount of good material out there about WW2.  My advice would be to ask here on the BBS for book suggestions, then craft your Christmas wishlist accordingly."

Dave

It's because we have a goodly number of young men that join this game and this site that have to deal with older guys with a case of keyboard courage and and a crap attitude because one of them occasionally steps on their johnson and gets stomped on for it.   

Personally I'd prefer to cultivate these guys and help them into the community as opposed to beating them down in the forums, on text, etc.. These young men, for the most part, share our interests in history, aviation, etc.., and yet I often see somebody being an arse to them for no other reason than they can be. 

Teaching them and sharing knowledge in subject they show interest in (well most of the other guys I can teach them neat bar tricks when they are of age) not only helps them but helps the community as a whole.  Additionally it helps them become more rounded adults and really isn't that what a 'community' is for?

Not picking on you bro because I like and respect you but that was an opening I had to take.

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The Titanic wasn't "rebuilt" because it wasn't respectful to the folks that died that night. It wouldn't be the same, would you prefer to fly a replica WW2 plane made with today's metal, gears and engines? Or a true WW2 plane flown by a real pilot? (assuming both are in good conditions). The Titanic was a symbol during it's time, and because it sunk on the maiden voyage, many people thought it would be bad luck to reuse the "symbol". 
You have a point,  :lol Looking back in 2nd grade me and a few other kids made plans for when we were "grown ups" to rebuild the Titanic  :rolleyes: Being 16 today and in high school, it seems almost childish, but I would still do it if I had the resources and time.

talking about the old boats, i stayed at the queen mary in longbeach a couple of months ago.  it was pretty cool staying in the cabin.  they cabins are still the same as they were back in the day except they have a plasma tv and unlimited supply of hot/cold water.

semp
I've been looking into a cruise on a ship like that, Almost kinda sad that I still can't do much by myself yet.

Wow...   I really wasn't trying to be snarky or anything.  I honestly wasn't trying to brush him off or diminish him in any way.  I was offering honest advice.  Most of what I know about WW2 and the military in general was gained by saving my pennies to buy whatever books I could afford.  Plus a ton of time in the library.  And my Christmas wishlist always has (and still does at age 41) included a few titles that I would like to read.

I was just trying to tell him that where the public school system fails, there is an avenue for someone with the desire to learn to actually learn.  I hope he does seek out the material he is interested in, instead of simply blaming his ignorance on the crappy school system.

All that said, any questions I can answer, I will.  Although, there are many folks far more qualified to comment then I am.

For Christmas last year my grandfather gave me his dads book on World war 2, I read through it sometimes, my great grandfather was a tank commander, I don't know much but I know he was involved in the Normandy invasion and almost reached Berlin, he passed before I could record his stories, but he has some great tales to tell, on note of him being a tank commander I don't know who he went in with, or the tank he commanded, he told me but I forgot the name of it, although i'm 100% sure it wasn't a Sherman it was another tank.
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Re: Here's a question bout the Titanic
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2011, 11:10:53 PM »
For Christmas last year my grandfather gave me his dads book on World war 2

When I was in High School, my dad got a book in the mail.  It was written by a guy who was in my dad's Army basic training class, during the Vietnam war.  It was all about his entrance to the Army and what he was going through as he prepared to go off to war.  Even though it wasn't written from my dad's point of view, it was very enlightening for me.  It really gave me a window into the world my dad lived through when he was 18 or 19 years old.  ( I was 16 or 17 when I read the book )

I wish every generation was lucky enough to have such a specific understanding of the generation before. 

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