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Offline pembquist

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bardar not so effective out at sea
« on: September 16, 2011, 04:28:44 PM »
Just thinking if bardar is supposed to represent a country's total air defense detection system that maybe it shouldn't work globally and especially not out at sea when there isn't an asset to detect anything. Maybe once you are more than one sector out from land you wouldn't show up?  Maybe you wouldn't show up unless you were say 7 pilots?  Conceptually I don't understand why one formation of ki-67 shows up in the middle of the ocean but a whole task force is invisible right next to an eneme base.
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 04:46:41 PM »
Yup that's what we need, is more ways to hide!   :rolleyes:

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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 05:05:03 PM »
Yup that's what we need, is more ways to hide!   :rolleyes:

That's what I was thinking at first but it makes sense. What was the actual range enemy A/C could be detected from shore in WWII?

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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 05:08:52 PM »
just imagine theres lots of fishing boats and other assorted shipping out there :)
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 05:13:30 PM »
That's what I was thinking at first but it makes sense. What was the actual range enemy A/C could be detected from shore in WWII?

It shouldn't matter; this is a game about combat, using WWII equipment. I'm all for some amount of realism, but just remember it's a game where combat is the objective, so it shouldn't be too hard to find the "enemy".
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2011, 05:14:59 PM »
What about giving bomber formations the option of carrying 1000lbs less in explosives and loading up on chaff?  Really screw with Radar!   :x
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2011, 08:45:01 PM »
Pork radar. Fly under 100ft. Hit the HQ.

Those are your options. Do it.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 01:34:22 AM »
     I wonder how low ship-borne radar or observers could see?  :rolleyes:  Not much terrain to hide behind out
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 12:44:16 PM »
Pork radar. Fly under 100ft. Hit the HQ.

Those are your options. Do it.

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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 06:30:18 PM »
how about enroute to the enemy base you get spotted by allied merchant vessels... or fishing boats with radio... or submarines... and all that information is relayed back somehow to someone...

i say keep the darbar where it is now... it works... and its good... helps us with time to scramble a/c to meet them... helps curb the horde too dun ya think?
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 06:49:52 PM »
That's what I was thinking at first but it makes sense. What was the actual range enemy A/C could be detected from shore in WWII?
50 to 300+ miles depending on the year and type of radar...
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2011, 07:12:22 PM »
not like we can just stop anywhere at sea when the need arises.  I hate stupid threads.

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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 06:37:28 AM »
What about giving bomber formations the option of carrying 1000lbs less in explosives and loading up on chaff?  Really screw with Radar!   :x

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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 09:15:41 AM »
Sorry if this stupid thread offends.  I just think its illogical that a single b-29 at 30K shows up way out at sea while a bunch of ships can be parked along the coast with no warning.  I guess its no more illogical than those axis P-47m's hosing down daylight bombing lancasters though.
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Re: bardar not so effective out at sea
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 11:35:28 AM »
Dar bar is acting very strangely.

Lately, I have heard multiple 163 rocket engines near me at 40,000 feet before any dar bar shows up or I find bombers 25k over our strats without a dar bar having been generated anywhere along the bomber's course.