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Offline LCADolby

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Changeup - "The High 12"
« on: September 17, 2011, 12:52:21 AM »
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 01:16:55 AM »
:uhoh

this isnt going to end well...i can tell that right now.
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2011, 02:51:29 AM »
Nice editing and music tho.
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 07:33:10 AM »
Did anyone get a collision message?
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 07:52:09 AM »
HOs don't bother me that much.  I assume people are going to try it, I and I use it as the situation or mood dictates.   Happened in RL and happens in the game.

What really bothers me is the time delay between the pass and when the rounds landed.   It just seems so wrong.  He was well past you before the round landed and damage was done - first time I saw it I thought the damage was being caused by ground fire.   

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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 08:49:05 AM »
Quote from: oboe on September 17, 2011, 07:52:09 AM
HOs don't bother me that much.  I assume people are going to try it, I and I use it as the situation or mood dictates.   Happened in RL and happens in the game.

What really bothers me is the time delay between the pass and when the rounds landed.   It just seems so wrong.  He was well past you before the round landed and damage was done - first time I saw it I thought the damage was being caused by ground fire.   



Same.

In either case, I would have kicked a little left rudder and served him a few taters.  That usually ensures  that the other guy is finalized, also.
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 10:39:05 AM »
was there an attempt to merge with him?  

looks like you were off to the side not pulling at him or trying to reverse early enough.   So seeing as guns weren't on him he took a last second pot shot as you passed.   Combine it with the lag these things are always a little dicey.  Front quarter definitely.

Lame shot amongst 4 other red guys and his own field? probably, but this happens everyday in the MA  ;)
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 12:10:48 PM »
Lol at the video, I enjoyed it.  As for the HO, maybe so maybe no, but who cares?  HO's happen.   :aok
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 12:15:44 PM »
both of you could avoid the ho it was the choice of both of you guys to go ahead with that ho
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 04:05:16 PM »
Quote from: Bruv119 on September 17, 2011, 10:39:05 AM
was there an attempt to merge with him?  

looks like you were off to the side not pulling at him or trying to reverse early enough.   So seeing as guns weren't on him he took a last second pot shot as you passed.   Combine it with the lag these things are always a little dicey.  Front quarter definitely.

Lame shot amongst 4 other red guys and his own field? probably, but this happens everyday in the MA  ;)

I think it's just a bit important to note that he was having a field day running his German plane through the fight at warp speeds picking, which is part of the game certainly...but front quarters are not HOs.  I can't see the video from this iPad but will look when I get home...as I remember it, he was following someone else right through the middle of the horde and I pulled the stick back and shot as he passed.  Did he leave the whining on 200 in the video?  That was fun to read..

As I said Dolby, not a HO

Edit:  watched it on YouTube...front quarter shot all the way from your 11, you were pulling to meet me and you didn't get there because you were going so fast you had to be compressing.  We were canopy to canopy after the shot...had it been a HO, there most certainly been a collision.  If memory serves, i think i had taken off moments earlier but i cant remember.....Id love to see the original video to see if I had been up about 20 seconds...I bet my speed wasn't much above 180 kts.  

Dolby, put it out on the general forum....i will apologize if they believe it was a HO....personally, Bruvs about as expertan as there is and he says no HO.  Case closed...
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 09:30:08 PM »
"Sackless fibber"  I do miss 200, it is nice to see some "text creativity". This should have been resolved on "private" you both are reasonable chaps, bringing something "so meaningless" here lacks decorum!

Dolby you should remove it from the BBs and you both should duel till you get along or someone drops dead of stress  :aok

I may have to return to do 200 proper justice  :neener:

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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2011, 11:20:37 AM »
Quote from: Changeup on October 14, 2011, 04:05:16 PM
I think it's just a bit important to note that he was having a field day running his German plane through the fight at warp speeds picking, which is part of the game certainly...but front quarters are not HOs.  I can't see the video from this iPad but will look when I get home...as I remember it, he was following someone else right through the middle of the horde and I pulled the stick back and shot as he passed.  Did he leave the whining on 200 in the video?  That was fun to read..

As I said Dolby, not a HO

Edit:  watched it on YouTube...front quarter shot all the way from your 11, you were pulling to meet me and you didn't get there because you were going so fast you had to be compressing.  We were canopy to canopy after the shot...had it been a HO, there most certainly been a collision.  If memory serves, i think i had taken off moments earlier but i cant remember.....Id love to see the original video to see if I had been up about 20 seconds...I bet my speed wasn't much above 180 kts.  

Dolby, put it out on the general forum....i will apologize if they believe it was a HO....personally, Bruvs about as expertan as there is and he says no HO.  Case closed...
Don't be so daft, I hadn't been going warps speeds, I had just come off the back of a fleeing A20 when you HOd (Hot to Hot aspect is a HO in my book http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0u6vMiNc). There was no way I was near compression, and never had any intention to meet your HO. You were doing 330mph to my 280, and been up for much longer than 20seconds.
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2011, 12:03:45 PM »
Quote from: LCADolby on October 15, 2011, 11:20:37 AM
Don't be so daft, I hadn't been going warps speeds, I had just come off the back of a fleeing A20 when you HOd (Hot to Hot aspect is a HO in my book http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0u6vMiNc). There was no way I was near compression, and never had any intention to meet your HO. You were doing 330mph to my 280, and been up for much longer than 20seconds.

Ok so now we are going on YOUR definition of a HO.  I just want to make sure that I am clear on the rules.  Bruv said he thought NO HO, Grizz said maybe but I'll bet he didn't look at it very long...but they weren't using your definition I guess.
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2011, 02:27:37 PM »
I think it's senseless to continue the discussion / argument. Of course there aren't any rules, just a vaguely defined set of values about what is sporting and not, which tends to go out of the window the moment someone prioritises getting a kill for whatever motivation, revenge, score etcetera.

The event doesn't warrant this much energy, I'm sure you'd both do things differently next time.

I suggest you both shake hands and move along.  :salute
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Re: Changeup - "The High 12"
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2011, 03:07:35 PM »
I'm on the fence about this one. To me regardless if it was a HO shot or not, it looked untentional from both sides because it was in the mist of a turn. Me personally, when I am going HO angle, I'll usually wiggle my wings as in a "no shot shot" and more or less, most people respect and understand it. Reason I am on the fence about it however, is being Changie is a squadmate, and Dolby is someone I respect as well (and my old ID was Dolby as well).

My two cents though: As long as the game exists, there is going to be HO shots and that will never stop.
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