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Offline Karnak

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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #75 on: September 27, 2011, 04:45:50 AM »
How well do you think the A-26 would fare as a fighter in the LWMA?  If not well, how well could it intercept bomber formations?  Does it have a place in this thread?

It would do badly in both roles.  It is, compared to most fighters, very slow.  Its wing loading is very high and it had very poor performance at altitude.  If it caught bombers under it at a reasonably low altitude it would do well against them, but using it as a fighter is going to be skill intensive.  The people asking for it because they are imagining it as a fighter are going to be fairly disappointed.

That said, it probably wouldn't do that much worse than the Me410.
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #76 on: September 27, 2011, 11:56:09 AM »
Riddle me this Batman, why do people us attack bombes as fighters. I see A20s all the time in furballs doing things it would never do in RL now someone wanting to use the A26 that way makes no sense to me. 
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #77 on: September 27, 2011, 11:59:37 AM »
Riddle me this Batman, why do people us attack bombes as fighters.
fighter hangars got porked, only thing left to do is grab the most agile bomber available for base defense.
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #78 on: September 27, 2011, 12:17:53 PM »
Riddle me this Batman, why do people us attack bombes as fighters. I see A20s all the time in furballs doing things it would never do in RL now someone wanting to use the A26 that way makes no sense to me. 

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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #79 on: September 27, 2011, 12:37:25 PM »
Well they took the IL2s out of the BHs due to its Death Star like performance against fighters  :huh Maybe we should put it back in the BHs only with about 100 perks when not loaded with ords.  :rofl
it was not a bomber. it was a ground attack/close air support aircraft therefore being classified as a bomber in ah was wrong.
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #80 on: September 27, 2011, 02:17:07 PM »
it was not a bomber. it was a ground attack/close air support aircraft therefore being classified as a bomber in ah was wrong.
It was also not a fighter.

The FHs being down have nothing to do with it either.  Some people just want to use them as fighters.
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #81 on: September 27, 2011, 02:50:36 PM »
It was also not a fighter.
so you think it should be treated as a bomber?
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #82 on: September 27, 2011, 05:03:14 PM »
  For 15 bucks
 HTC gives us over 100 planes/tanks/boats to do as we please with them in the MA. There are no set "rules" for these tools of war as far as what we can use them for.
  so instead of crying about people who dogfight in a bomber,maybe you should cry to HTC for a arena that follows the strict guidlines of aircraft usage during WW2
               


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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #83 on: September 27, 2011, 05:06:49 PM »
  For 15 bucks
 HTC gives us over 100 planes/tanks/boats to do as we please with them in the MA. There are no set "rules" for these tools of war as far as what we can use them for.
  so instead of crying about people who dogfight in a bomber,maybe you should cry to HTC for a arena that follows the strict guidlines of aircraft usage during WW2
               
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #84 on: September 27, 2011, 05:17:47 PM »
so you think it should be treated as a bomber?
I didn't say that, however the people advocating for it definitely intending on treating it as a fighter.  I'll even grant than an unladen A-26 might be a passable fighter, despite its several shortcomings.

However, based on its historical role and given that AH has two choices for it, the BH is the more appropriate hangar for it to spawn out of.
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #85 on: September 27, 2011, 05:48:11 PM »
It was also not a fighter.

The FHs being down have nothing to do with it either.  Some people just want to use them as fighters.

That's because attack aircraft are lumped in with fighters for scoring purposes.  The IL2 was a tank buster and ground support aircraft.  Thinking in modern terms, would you consider the A-10 Warthog a bomber?

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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #86 on: September 27, 2011, 06:10:33 PM »
+1 to the 109 G6AS in particular, many a midwar FSO or scenario being stuck in a normal G6 trying to fight 30k+ american fighters and bombers, not easy or very productive in most cases.

I love when people complaign about dogfighting A20's :lol

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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #87 on: September 27, 2011, 06:24:53 PM »
+1 to the 109 G6AS in particular, many a midwar FSO or scenario being stuck in a normal G6 trying to fight 30k+ american fighters and bombers, not easy or very productive in most cases.

I love when people complaign about dogfighting A20's :lol

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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #88 on: September 27, 2011, 06:54:29 PM »
You have to admit, when you're in a b25c with all those 50's and some dork tried to Ho you, it's pretty cool watching them explode. :neener:
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Re: Potentially Competive fighters for the LWA
« Reply #89 on: September 27, 2011, 07:35:27 PM »
That's because attack aircraft are lumped in with fighters for scoring purposes.  The IL2 was a tank buster and ground support aircraft.  Thinking in modern terms, would you consider the A-10 Warthog a bomber?

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No, but modern aircraft do tend to be more multi-role.  How many air-to-air kills does the A-10 have?  How many did the A-20 have with its fixed guns?  How about the A-26?

Now, I have no problem with the idea of the A-20G being moved to the FHs and the A-26 being introduced from the FHs.  I can see the argument both ways.
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