ok I think I got the rules ironed out....I definitely did not like the idea of someone getting a top three spot easily so I came up with a way to make it fair and possible for anyone on the ladder in the beginning to achieve one of those spots.
ok here they are.....
History
Ladders have been used in many sports and in different forms. In fencing salles of the past, it was a traditional element of the culture. Often they were used to determine who would represent the salle in competitions. Today this concept can work to provide healthy internal competition.
Benefits
dueling the same people over and over isn’t necessarily a good thing. Duelers need to Duel with a variety of people to learn ACM tactics and improve their skills.
A dueling ladder is a great motivational tool that fosters problem solving as a necessary outcome for success.The ladder becomes a motivational impetus to improve.
Participation
Participation in dueling ladders is purely optional. But, it is a lot of fun....
expectations from participants.....you are expected to conduct your self with Honor, integrity,and Honesty first and foremost, I Don't believe we need a huge book of rules, and I am not gonna play the rule game....if you conduct yourself with Honor and integrity there is no reason for excessive rules....
if you Harass/verbally abuse via PM or Vox any participants in the dueling Ladder you will be ejected from the ladder, with no warnings... proof of harassment must be shown, if you have been ejected from one ladder you may participate in the next one, if a second ejection occurs then the person will be banned permanently from all future Ladders.
any obvious out right breaking of the rules will be ejection from the ladder.
film all Duels...with out film there is no proof.
ok on with the rules......
Dueling Ladder Rules
1) Challenging.
a) Duelers may challenge any of the three Duelers above them on the Ladder.
b) Duelers may challenge up to three times per week. except one he previously challenged and lost too, he must win a duel before he can re-challenge the one he lost to.
c) Challenges occur in the DFC Dueling Challenge Thread..
d) All challengees must accept challenges provided they are available and not in the middle of a duel with a previous challenger.. otherwise a date and time shall be set for the duel agreed upon by both duelists
e) The dueler in the number one spot may challenge any of the Duelers below him/her to prevent *ADS.....in the case where the Top Dog loses a challenge he put forth, they will switch positions on the Ladder, this is the only time a switching of positions will take place.
f) When you challenge a member, they have the choice of the first round plane.
The Duel
1) fuel will be 25% same plane, same ammo load out, (other ladders in the future may be designed as a non same plane match ups....IE you take your best plane I take my best plane see who wins)
2) If someone loses a wing, tail, or engine, the round is over, Duels are to be held in the dueling arena with an agreed upon ALT by the contestants, but a 10K ALT is a good starting point, for this opens up the fight much more and allows for more options on the merge. remember the fight is most often won in the merge.
3) The Loser of the round has the choice of the next plane.
4) Both contestants must get a fresh plane before the next round.
5) Rounds must start Co Alt and Co E before the initial merge. This means no going above the agreed altitude before the initial merge in order to gain more E then your opponent,once you are in icon range, you may dive under your opponent or initiate a climb...IE start your maneuvering.
6) Head-Ons on the initial merge are looked down upon but are NOT against the rules****...they go against what this ladder is all about...besides the fun factor, it is about killing your nme, with out allowing him to kill you.... A HO is just a toss of the coin...for the purposes of this ladder "HO" shots are not ACM and should be avoided...****
7) a front quarter shot is NOT a HO if you are able to get around and put guns on your opponent and destroy his cartoon pilot before he has guns on you...this is a very legit shot and one to be expected.
8) If you get more then 2.5K from your opponent while your plane’s nose is pointed away from him, you lose that round. If both contestants are nose away, that round is forfeit. This includes altitude.
Initial placement and working up the ladder
a) At the start of each Ladder “season”, all Duelers will be randomly drawn to determine their initial rung on the ladder. with the exception of the 1-3 rungs, these will not be givin to anyone, they must be fought for.
b) when a challenger wins a bout, they will take the rung of their challengee; and the challengee will move down one rung.
If a challengee wins, there is no change.
c) the top 3 "rungs" will not be givin out at the beginning of the season, each of the top three rungs must be fought for....#
for instance...say 25 people sign up there will be 28 "rungs" each pilot will be randomly placed in the bottom 25 rungs.
d) ladder rungs 20 and below will be best of 3, rungs 6-20 best out of five rounds, for rungs 1-5 the bout winner will be best of ten. all fights do not necessarily need to be finished in one day.
e) It is the responsibility of the Duelers to submit the bout information: who Dueled and the final winner, in the results thread.
# the coveted top three rungs and how to get there.....these are the rungs that are the hardest to get to....
the first duelist to win 3 matches in a row moves into the 3rd place rung
the first duelist to win 4 matches in a row moves into the 2nd place rung
the first duelist to win 5 matches in a row moves into the 1st place rung and will be Top Dog until he is ousted by a challenger.(or loses a challenge he put forth)
this will allow anyone on the ladder a fair chance to get to the top rung
once the top three rungs are occupied....all duelist must work their way up the Ladder, in the typical fashion.
* Automatic Degradation System: All Ladder Duelers must Duel at least once per month in order to maintain their place. For every month they do not Duel, they will move down one place. Example: If the order of the Duelers is INK,Prono,Irishone,Zoney,Debrody.... and INK and Irishone do not duel in that month, the new order would be Prono, INk, Zoney,Irishone,Debrody
**** more on the "HO" shot......this Ladder is for those of us that enjoy a fight, for those of us who want to get better at ACM, to be able to fight those that you may not get a chance to in the MA's with out being hoarded.....so if we as a Dueling community feel someone is not here for the right reasons IE A good fight.....and they choose to just HO every fight with out any ACM....an ejection thread will be started we will try to encourage this individual to change his ways if they still refuse and just HO every fight they will be ejected from the Ladder.
again the HO shot is just a coin toss.....it has NO PLACE in a dueling Ladder where good fights are expected.
A season will consist of 6 months.
these rules were adapted from the DFC dueling rules and the fencing Ladder rules
