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Offline Tupac

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Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« on: September 26, 2011, 03:01:41 PM »
Saw this posted a a pilot forum today

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Just a reminder to check TFRs before you fly. I just watched an F-15 intercept a Stearman during a Presidential TFR. The TFR is centered on SJC (San Jose), and over here in Santa Cruz is well within the boundaries.

I heard the Eagle, next heard and saw the yellow Stearman (certainly from WVI - Watsonville) cruising low and slow along the coast, then saw the intercept from about a mile away. Turned on the handheld and heard the Eagle driver calling on guard, but no response. The Stearman did get the idea and I last saw them headed back toward WVI with the F-15 in high alpha leading the way.

I suspect that if you want some Stearman time, there is one at WVI that might otherwise be sitting idle for some time to come.

Internet or LockMart, it's pretty easy to find the TFRs. 
     

Thank FSM we are safe from another sky terrorist!
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2011, 03:23:56 PM »
Man I hate those Presidential TFR. All the other ones I can understand, but it's really not worth grounding 1000+ people just because there is some VIP is in the area. They either need to stop making those TFRs or VIPs should not be allowed out of DC.

Thankfully now I live in the middle of nowhere and VIPs have no reason to come here.  :)  :aok
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 05:45:43 PM »
Earlier in the year a little old lady, yes she is 75, had the same thing happen to her.

http://frankmerrill.org/2011/lee-bottom-flying-field-issues-first-non-governmental-tfr.htm
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 05:51:16 PM »
heheh I like how the airport set up theyre own TFR in response. Good stuff!  :aok
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 06:58:20 PM »
Quote from: Tupac on September 26, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
Saw this posted a a pilot forum today

Thank FSM we are safe from another sky terrorist!

*facepalm*  And Obama hasn't even landed here at LAX at 5pm today...   yet...
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 07:23:36 PM »
Quote from: MachFly on September 26, 2011, 03:23:56 PM
Man I hate those Presidential TFR. All the other ones I can understand, but it's really not worth grounding 1000+ people just because there is some VIP is in the area. They either need to stop making those TFRs or VIPs should not be allowed out of DC.

Thankfully now I live in the middle of nowhere and VIPs have no reason to come here.  :)  :aok

you got it wrong. when they;re IN dc, they eff things up. what needs to happen, is when they leave, someone needs to change al the locks, and not let em back in.  :noid
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 07:57:56 PM »
In early '02 we were taking the B-24 into St Petersburg, FL from Orlando.  GW Bush was going to be in St Pete and would be arriving shortly after our arrival.  In the interest of not wanting to screw something up we filed IFR even though it was a CAVU day.  We had been cleared for the visual, but not yet cleared to land, and as I turned final we had a complete electrical failure -- radio, intercom -- everything.  Oh Fudge!!  First instinct was to run away.  :D  We continued and landed with a light gun signal.  Was a no brainer as to what to do, but there were lots of thoughts of being intercepted, etc.
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 08:32:50 PM »
He should have turned back towards base, and slowed wwwwaaaaaayyyyyy down, like right above a stall, and watched the F-15 just flounder around trying to stay slow enough. 
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 08:34:45 PM »
Quote from: 2ADoc on September 26, 2011, 08:32:50 PM
He should have turned back towards base, and slowed wwwwaaaaaayyyyyy down, like right above a stall, and watched the F-15 just flounder around trying to stay slow enough.  


Flounder? With a 1:1 thrust/weight ratio? Perhaps not  :D
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 08:36:41 PM »
Surprised they only had 15's for escorts... BTW F15 does fine in slow flight.
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 09:30:59 PM »
Quote from: colmbo on September 26, 2011, 07:57:56 PM
In early '02 we were taking the B-24 into St Petersburg, FL from Orlando.  GW Bush was going to be in St Pete and would be arriving shortly after our arrival.  In the interest of not wanting to screw something up we filed IFR even though it was a CAVU day.  We had been cleared for the visual, but not yet cleared to land, and as I turned final we had a complete electrical failure -- radio, intercom -- everything.  Oh Fudge!!  First instinct was to run away.  :D  We continued and landed with a light gun signal.  Was a no brainer as to what to do, but there were lots of thoughts of being intercepted, etc.

At least you still had your engine, if that was to happen to me I would have lost everything (that includes engines). I would'nt even have full motion of the stick.  :rofl


How did you drop the gear? Did you have to manually crank it down or did the B-24 have a bit more modern system?
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 09:32:39 PM »
Quote from: MachFly on September 26, 2011, 09:30:59 PM
At least you still had your engine, if that was to happen to me I would have lost everything (that includes engines). I would'nt even have full motion of the stick.  :rofl


How did you drop the gear? Did you have to manually crank it down or did the B-24 have a bit more modern system?
I thought landing gear were hydraulic...
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 09:35:20 PM »
Quote from: Pigslilspaz on September 26, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
I thought landing gear were hydraulic...

I don't know how the B-24 has it, you might be right. My landing gear for example is electro-hydraulic, but if it looses electricity it would automatically open.
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 10:56:11 PM »
Hmmm.... lunch today in the State Capital I heard a couple of jets flying overhead...  Never got a visual, but normally don't see or hear those unless I'm out more towards Vacaville...  wonder if it's related? :P
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Re: Stearman intercepted for POTUS TFR bust.
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2011, 05:35:19 AM »
Quote from: MachFly on September 26, 2011, 09:30:59 PM
At least you still had your engine, if that was to happen to me I would have lost everything (that includes engines). I would'nt even have full motion of the stick.  :rofl


How did you drop the gear? Did you have to manually crank it down or did the B-24 have a bit more modern system?

With the exception of the cowl flaps everything on the B-24 is hydraulic.
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