Dodge Viper reclaims Production Car Lap Record at Nürburgring.

[CAP1]

I personally dont own one. but i have a friends dad who ones a 98 which i have driven and hope to one day buy off him. im only $20k below the mark 

trust me. by the time you're old enough to drive, you'll realize you want something else. 

[Tyrannis]

trust me. by the time you're old enough to drive, you'll realize you want something else. 

Sorry bud, But mustangs bore me, and Corvettes are too subtle.

Ive always had my eyes on the Viper. Everyone has a fav ride, and ever since i drove his 98, ive been in love with it.

[CAP1]

Sorry bud, But mustangs bore me, and Corvettes are too subtle.

Ive always had my eyes on the Viper. Everyone has a fav ride, and ever since i drove his 98, ive been in love with it.

right now, i kinda wish ya lived next door. why? so i can say "i told ya so" when you discover we're right.


 have fun though......THAT's the important part. 

[Tordon22]

And I wished I lived two doors down from tyrannis and one door down from cap, would make the flaming bags of pooh much more economical

[CAP1]

And I wished I lived two doors down from tyrannis and one door down from cap, would make the flaming bags of pooh much more economical

[icepac]

Michelin Pilot Sport Cups shaved to 4/32 tread depth and $700 each at a discount tire supplier like tire rack.

You can put that compound on an acrua integra that the engine specs as stock and do times within 2 seconds of a stock ZR1.

I predict someone will fit these same tires or a tire company will supply a yet softer compound and another car will take back the "record" within a few weeks.

[1sum41]

And I wished I lived two doors down from tyrannis and one door down from cap, would make the flaming bags of pooh much more economical

[Widewing]

Here's a link to the video of the Viper taking back the course record, from the guys at SRT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4-e3uSYPpg&feature=player_embedded

[Tyrannis]

Here's a link to the video of the Viper taking back the course record, from the guys at SRT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4-e3uSYPpg&feature=player_embedded

one day...

[Grayeagle]

Warning, OPINION follows: (say 'NO' all you like, it's *MY* opinion so saying 'NO' is futile .. really)

Viper is a nice lookin car . . way swoopy, looks awesome in red or blue.. especially with the stripes.

For me, major turn off is the sound .. like an extended burrito fart.
Now . . you can cam-heads 'em up an get a pretty good growl from 'em
 . ..but it still misses the mark by a wide margin of what a similar cammed V8 sounds like.

What is interesting is that Dodge's viper doods originally designed/built it to compete directly with the Vette.
Then the suit-dweebs stepped in and said they could charge more for them, which they did.

Nowadays you *can* buy two brand new corvette's from Kerbecks for what a Viper costs here in Phx from a dealer and have change left over.
Cost effective? .. I think not.
(imagines buyin a 42k vette and *then* spending the viper difference on it)
Ya .. it would be fun

-Frank aka GE

[Hajo]

Corvettes are like ants, they're everywhere.  Nice car....but <yawn> when ya see them.

Don't see many Vipers.....again just as always just my opinion....but the Vette being everywhere

is not an opinion....it's a fact.  Go to a large Auction, Mecum, etc,  The Vette is there in

large numbers being auctioned off.

The only Vettes that I truly love were the 53 (being the first) 63 & 67.  Fantastic Vettes.

They as I said before are great cars.....70s vettes and 80s  seem to me GM lost vision

on design and performance.  Newer ones however can run with anything.

[Reaper90]

Supply and demand, Hajo, simple economics.

There are lots of Vettes because: 1) they rock, for the price, and 2) people want them, and they buy them.

There are very few Vipers about because: 1) they suck, for the price (comparitively speaking), and 2) very few people want them, therefore, they don't sell. Hence, Dodge killed the Viper cause they couldn't get rid of the ugly things.

[CAP1]

Warning, OPINION follows: (say 'NO' all you like, it's *MY* opinion so saying 'NO' is futile .. really)

Viper is a nice lookin car . . way swoopy, looks awesome in red or blue.. especially with the stripes.

For me, major turn off is the sound .. like an extended burrito fart.
Now . . you can cam-heads 'em up an get a pretty good growl from 'em
 . ..but it still misses the mark by a wide margin of what a similar cammed V8 sounds like.

What is interesting is that Dodge's viper doods originally designed/built it to compete directly with the Vette.
Then the suit-dweebs stepped in and said they could charge more for them, which they did.

Nowadays you *can* buy two brand new corvette's from Kerbecks for what a Viper costs here in Phx from a dealer and have change left over.
Cost effective? .. I think not.
(imagines buyin a 42k vette and *then* spending the viper difference on it)
Ya .. it would be fun

-Frank aka GE

i thought i was the only one that didn't like the sound of those things.

 as i've said before, my buddy has two of em. he drives the 96 a lot. that one's seriously cammed, and at idle, sounds VERY nice. problem is, that as soon as he pulls away, and runs the gears, it's kinda like "BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPPP".

 AND IT FRIGGIN HURTS MY EARS.

[CAP1]

Corvettes are like ants, they're everywhere.  Nice car....but <yawn> when ya see them.

Don't see many Vipers.....again just as always just my opinion....but the Vette being everywhere

is not an opinion....it's a fact.  Go to a large Auction, Mecum, etc,  The Vette is there in

large numbers being auctioned off.

The only Vettes that I truly love were the 53 (being the first) 63 & 67.  Fantastic Vettes.

They as I said before are great cars.....70s vettes and 80s  seem to me GM lost vision

on design and performance.  Newer ones however can run with anything.

you see more vettes, than vipers, for the same reason you see more mustangs than camaros. they/re more popular.  

also.....you're right with the early vettes. i tend to like the 66 to 69's, then not a single one of them deserved the "corvette" title till thelate 90's, to current.

[Reaper90]

i tend to like the 66 to 69's, then not a single one of them deserved the "corvette" title till thelate 90's, to current.

As a past owner of a C4 Corvette, a 1990 6-spd coupe from the '84-'96 generation, I have to repectfully disagree.

The Corvette was reborn in '84. Even though those cars didn't make the big hp numbers of today's cars, look at their performance relative to their competition: They SCHOOLED everything from Japan, Germany, England, and well, yes, FORD, for plenty of years. It took Nissan and Porsche years to catch up to the Corvette in performance in class, and the C4 Corvette was so successful in SCCA and IMSA racing that it got banished from the World Challenge Series after going UNDEFEATED for 2 straight years, got sent off to the Corvette Challenge to compete against itself for '88 and '89, then came back to World Challenge for the '90 season to kick so much BUTT that Porsche, Nissan, and Lotus cried until the Corvettes got several hundred pounds of lead added to slow them down. It was only after the C4 Corvette chassis had been around for almost 10 years before the other cars in its class had started to seriously contend with it.....

Think for a minute CAP, what kind of miserable POS was the Mustang in the late '80's and early '90's? And the C4 Corvette was bad???? LOLOLOLOL!!!