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Offline Thatguy1

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Norway Spec B239
« on: September 29, 2011, 07:50:41 PM »
The B239s we sold to Norway before WW2 were modified, and had 20mm canon in the wings, and were equipped with the engine from the Gooney. This would make the brewster a much better airplane, I wouldn't mind paying high perkys for it either...

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 09:24:39 PM »
I think the brewster is a formidable plane now if used correctly but 20mms do sound goood.... :devil :airplane: :joystick: :banana:

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2011, 09:33:10 PM »
The B239s we sold to Norway before WW2 were modified, and had 20mm canon in the wings, and were equipped with the engine from the Gooney. This would make the brewster a much better airplane, I wouldn't mind paying high perkys for it either...

Modified by whom?
Modified when?

BTW, they've always had the same engine as the C-47 IIRC.



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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 10:21:17 PM »
As if the Brewster version AH currently has isnt enough....   
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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2011, 10:58:03 PM »
The only Brewster B-239s were the ones the Finns received.  Norway didn't get any Brewsters, are you sure you're not mistaken the Norway with the Netherlands?

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 01:40:11 AM »
The B239s we sold to Norway before WW2 were modified, and had 20mm canon in the wings, and were equipped with the engine from the Gooney. This would make the brewster a much better airplane, I wouldn't mind paying high perkys for it either...
:lol  uh huh...not even wikipedia has it that wrong
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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2011, 06:03:33 AM »
The only Brewster B-239s were the ones the Finns received.  Norway didn't get any Brewsters, are you sure you're not mistaken the Norway with the Netherlands?

There indeed were no Norwegean Brewsters and nor production Brewsters with cannons. :)

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2011, 11:32:16 AM »
There indeed were no Norwegean Brewsters and nor production Brewsters with cannons. :)

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2011, 10:14:58 PM »
How about the norway spec. ME109T that was the only front line fighter that could fly out of certain short fields?
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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2011, 09:17:16 AM »
How about the norway spec. ME109T that was the only front line fighter that could fly out of certain short fields?
sure, if you don't mind converted 109e models. only 10 pre-production t0 carrier models were built and ~60 production t2 models with all the carrier equipment stripped off were sent to norway.
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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2011, 12:55:10 PM »
They had longer wings with a different flying characteristic.

Different enough from the other 109s, that it would be a nice addition to the game.

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2011, 01:01:37 PM »
They had longer wings with a different flying characteristic.

Different enough from the other 109s, that it would be a nice addition to the game.

From what I've been able to gather, the performance of the Bf 109T2 was pretty much identical to the Bf 109E-1 other than the fact it could operate from the short runways.

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 01:06:44 PM »
the wings were longer by a few inches due to the modifications needed for carrier ops, in the end they were just modified 109e with the same engines and weapons.

109g6/g14 AS models would be better additions...but that's just what i think.
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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2011, 03:20:49 PM »
My reason for mentioning this is because this plane had enough differences from all the other 109 models that it surely flew very differently.

Of course, that might make flight modeling it very difficult.

They flew, they scored kills, had at one ace in the type, and flew out of  norway.

From somewhere.......

109E-1 with the wings increased in span and area, extendible spoilers added on the upper surfaces of the wing at about one-third chord to steepen the approach angle for carrier landings, break points added in the wings outboard of the gun bays to allow the manual upward folding of the outer panels to reduce width to 13 ft 4 in (4,06 m), the leading-edge slots increased in span, the trailing-edge flaps given greater travel, the ailerons interconnected with the flaps, catapult attachment points added under the fuselage, and an arrester hook installed under the rear fuselage. Armament was 2 × 0.312 in (7,92 mm) MG 17 fuselage-mounted machine guns and either two more MG 17 machine guns or two 20 mm MG FF cannon in the wing leading edges.

I think adding planes or variants that have substantially different flight characteristics is a good thing though it does make for more work by HTC.

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Re: Norway Spec B239
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2011, 05:37:04 PM »
Icepac, let me lit the speculation light.
The 109T was based on the emil with extended wingspan and added weight, right?

Bigger wings = more lift, but more drag too. It would be slower than the standerd Emil equipped with the same engine, right? True it would turn a bit better, but also would roll even worse. Not sure if you ever been flying an emil...
More weight = worse turn rate. The Emil is already horribly underpowered, it would only make it worse.

Sum: it would be slower than the Emil with the same engine, would roll worse and would turn about the same, possibly a bit worse. Yee haa, what an awsome addition.
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