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Offline Midway

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Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« on: October 01, 2011, 11:40:20 PM »
These may have been mentioned before, but I just found them.  Very good and somewhat advanced articles on fighting.  At least advanced for me.  :)

Energy management: http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_011a.html

Co-E chases: http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_015a.html

Boom and zoom tactics:  http://www.simhq.com/_air9/air_277d.html

They came from here (and there are more): http://www.simhq.com/_air/acc_library.html

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« Last Edit: October 01, 2011, 11:45:10 PM by Midway »


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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 01:01:15 AM »
 I suggest this book to you also "Fighter Combat: Tactics and Maneuvering" By Robert L. Shaw. It should be in everyones library that plays this game IMO.
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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2011, 01:37:13 AM »
I recommend you read books that were designed to teach real pilots.

Here are some examples:
No Guts No Glory by Major General Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse
Fighter Combat Tactics and Maneuvering By Robert L. Shaw (as Uptown recommended)
Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators by Hugh H. Hurt, Jr.


And watch Dogfights, all episodes.
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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2011, 05:11:56 AM »
I suggest this book to you also "Fighter Combat: Tactics and Maneuvering" By Robert L. Shaw. It should be in everyones library that plays this game IMO.

Thats still the Reference! Own my one since years!

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2011, 07:51:03 AM »
Meh... I've been doing that stuff before it was put down anywhere, especially the level pursuit dip n dive.

Can't say I've read/studied pie-let stuff, altho' some of the pictures I've seen about ACM helped me give name to what I had been doing over the years.

Skills = anyone can obtain (sort of)
Talent = you either have it or don't ("10% of pie-lets get 90% of the kills.")

Talent + Skills = awesomesauce... ness

 :aok

But by all means, I encourage the talentless to acquire skills.  :neener:
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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2011, 08:45:00 AM »
I found some real good ones on biometric admiration subsequent to instructional encounters in aerial combat:

Proper techniques for ankle humpery: by Midway

Idol worship in an aerial setting: by Midway

Typing while flying Moves one can master in a day: by Midway

Thwarting enemys and friends alike through excessive communication on 200: by Midway

Man that Midway guy is well published.

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2011, 09:00:48 AM »

And watch Dogfights, all episodes.


....for entertainment value ONLY

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2011, 10:58:21 AM »

....for entertainment value ONLY
:salute so your saying the vets on the program are making it up just to be heard? and tactics they used and just as made up? surly there is some merit in it. just curious on the thoughts here no rudness inteded.

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2011, 11:00:06 AM »
also the e book in pursuit is a good read. sorry dont have the link.  :salute

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 11:34:32 AM »
also the e book in pursuit is a good read. sorry dont have the link.  :salute

I agree it is a good read, similar to watching the "dogfights" episodes on History or Military channel

but I have never recommended them for BFM /ACM studies  for getting better in Aces High or any other flight sim.....

the Author of "In Pursuit" has also another 1 or 2 other books he has published....... which are a little better but are drawn more from past publishings of other military documents and books, including the diagrams/drawings

some of the stuff which has been proven incorrect, has even been discussed, debated on these forums ( in other AH sub-forums )

as for the articles at the SimHQ Library , yes their are some great write-ups there by Andy and Leon and others.... ( look at the dates of the articles, they have been around for a good long time now )

edit: I had always heard that Shaw's Fighter Combat Tactics and Maneuvering was the bible of ACM........

I think that "No Guts No Glory" by Bleese is like the old testament while Robert Shaw's book is the new testament


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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2011, 12:06:21 PM »
This guy has some of the Very best  explained combat maneuver films out there.  :joystick:

 It's WW1 stuff but combining what you read with these films will help you greatly.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0H2-LakBrE&feature=related   :aok

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2011, 12:10:58 PM »
:salute so your saying the vets on the program are making it up just to be heard? and tactics they used and just as made up? surly there is some merit in it. just curious on the thoughts here no rudness inteded.

A lot of the info has been proven inaccurate. Many of the "stories" must be taken with a grain of salt as there isn't a pilot in the world who isn't going to "tweak" his story a bit much like fishermen do. The shows main purpose is to entertain, so that is how it is built. Facts aren't THAT important.

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2011, 01:48:44 PM »
also the e book in pursuit is a good read. sorry dont have the link.  :salute

Hey Bortas,

will second that, i read it twice:

http://pilotpress.wordpress.com/in-pursuit/

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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2011, 02:01:41 PM »
Meh... I've been doing that stuff before it was put down anywhere, especially the level pursuit dip n dive.

Can't say I've read/studied pie-let stuff, altho' some of the pictures I've seen about ACM helped me give name to what I had been doing over the years.

Skills = anyone can obtain (sort of)
Talent = you either have it or don't ("10% of pie-lets get 90% of the kills.")

Talent + Skills = awesomesauce... ness

 :aok

But by all means, I encourage the talentless to acquire skills.  :neener:

Ok, Mr Shane...  I see your inuendo and raise you a film...  Look at --->  me <---  shooting down Mr Awesomesauceness four in a row and landing them although the landing was a bit of a challange:  http://www.mediafire.com/?l6xnmpiy7sssjrs

Tangysauce in action.  :aok :D

 :neener:

 :noid


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Re: Found some good articles on AH fighting techniques
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2011, 02:04:07 PM »
Ok, Mr Shane...  I see your inuendo and raise you a film...  Look at --->  me <---  shooting down Mr Awesomesauceness four in a row and landing them although the landing was a bit of a challange:  http://www.mediafire.com/?l6xnmpiy7sssjrs

Tangysauce in action.  :aok :D

 :neener:

 :noid

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,320606.0.html     :noid   :rofl
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