remember that famous WWII photo?

[SmokinLoon]

I'd like to see the ENY kick in a bit quicker.  First, the Me262, Tempest, Spit16, and P51D would all get an even lower ENY (2-4 range), then aircraft like the La7, George, F4U-4, and a few others would get a step lower as well.  The scale needs to be adjusted and spread out with more steps, there are too many interval steps of 5, imo.

But on that note, I suggest people learn the 109's as someone else already suggested.  They are quite capable aircraft once a few of the minor Achilles heels are learned (and avoided), and the better attributes are capitalized on those 109's can hang with anything if flown in their performance window.

The 109F-4, albeit a single 20mm cannon w/ 200 rounds and dual 8mm MG's, the plane is quite agile.  The 109G-2 is the same thing, but ever-so-slightly less agile but that much faster.  The G-6 is the most stable and easy to fly but being slightly slower and a wee bit less capable in the turn and climb.  The E-4 is... well.... an average aircraft in the EW and I'll leave it at that.    The G-14 and K-4 are the heavy hitters with the 30mm option, and their ability to climb is second to none.  Keep in mind that the G-2 is faster than the G-14.     Oh, and leave the gondolas off unless your in jabo or bomber hunter mode.         

[Debrody]

But on that note, I suggest people learn the 109's as someone else already suggested  

The 109Gs arent as easy as you think. Every time i jump into any other ride (well, except the p39-p40) i almost feel like cheating.

[hotard]

LOL akak (aka I can't fly anythiing that's not a p-38) ragging me about my la?? pleeezzzeee. Dude when was the last year you actually posted something on the bbs that wasn't a lame attempt at a troll? Go find another ankle, mine is getting sore.

While the eny as a whole does several things: restricts plane choices, modifys perk costs, and points. by making it a straight percentage, it gets over applied when the numbers are low; I mean why hamstring a side when overall numbers are low, it's not like 5-10 guys are a game changer, but when the numbers are high ie +80 on a side it is under applied and isn't a sufficient penalty. We see on a regular basis a 50 player differential and eny <5. Why does this matter? Because it discourages the undermaned side, and causes an increase in side switchers who would rather operate under a modest eny rather than face long odds; inssestant hordes etc.

[hotard]

Akak, idk why was this needed. Even tho we got a consensus about his skills, you missed his point badly.
Anyway, increase the effect of eny would be totally useless  unless theres a major change in the 12 hours thingy. Think about it.

Opinions vary. U and hackhack a consensus??

Debrody, you are a good stick, no need to troll. Personaly I feel like I'm cheating when I fly 109's. Ditto for KI's. Hats off to the guys who can dance in F4U's and 51's. I will say this for AKAK at least he knows his limitations and ALWAYS stays above the fight.

[Debrody]

lulz
fail, hotard
im not a good stik, but your name suits you very well. If the 109g is superior to the lghey, i gonna eat my hat.

[VonMessa]

P38's do not have nearly the same performance envelope, speed, and firepower that the LA's do.

They are almost like a bomber.  They even have a steering wheel...   


 

[JimmyC]

[uptown]

190 A-8 = 30 ENY

30mm or 2 x 20mm guns = dead enemy plane and a nice handful of perks

whines on 200 from the horde about being lame and flying a tater plane or how the A-8 is not correct in it's current ENY slot = priceless

 

I'm about as eager to get into that thing as you are a 51, but I may be forced to try one.  

I did try out a C202 this morning.......I think I embarrassed myself 

[MachFly]

P38's do not have nearly the same performance envelope, speed, and firepower that the LA's do.

They are almost like a bomber.  They even have a steering wheel...   


 

La's performance envelope is pretty small, bellow 5K and between 300&400mph.

[MachFly]

Hotard, what's wrong with La-5?

It's got 20 ENY and handle almost like the La-7.

[uptown]

Opinions vary. U and hackhack a consensus??

...... I will say this for AKAK at least he knows his limitations and ALWAYS stays above the fight.

If I had just a 1/4 of his "limitations" I wouldn't feel the need to post in this thread.  

Anyway Hotard, if you want to validate your point you're going to have to let some comments side and not get sidetracked by them. Ribbing and ragging comes with the territory when ya post about ENY, hoardes and such. Rise above it man and help me, help you make the point here. So far the German flyers are winning this debate  

[hotard]

If I had just a 1/4 of his "limitations" I wouldn't feel the need to post in this thread.  

Anyway Hotard, if you want to validate your point you're going to have to let some comments side and not get sidetracked by them. Ribbing and ragging comes with the territory when ya post about ENY, hoardes and such. Rise above it man and help me, help you make the point here. So far the German flyers are winning this debate  

Ahh where to begin.
Any post relating to issues with the game in any form shape or fashion bring out the usual troll punks, it was to be expected. I could have placed money in Vegas as to who the flamers would be.

re ENY:
1. In the end HTC will ignore this as they ignore all constructive criticism that doesn't come from the chosen few.
Its the same reason a 51D has eny of what? 5? 8?; 109K4 eny 20.


re LA's:
The 5 is actually a bit better in maneuvering than the 7, but I prefer the 7 so I can catch those runstangs, 38's, 109's,f4u's etc. etc. that won't engage.

Hmm.. LA v 38 performance... no advantage in climb rate, turn rate, esp. as the 38 has a bigger envelope to deploy flaps.  better roll rate perhaps. Firepower I'd rate about equal, they both slice and dice anything in their way, and don't have to worry about convergence.  LA faster in the weeds, not above abt 5k. 38 retains energy better, better acceleration.

Rather doubt I've ho'ed you Debrody, I rather enjoy out flying 109's.

[hotard]

Ok so here's my suggestion for an revised eny formula:
when your country has a given amount of players in excess of the lowest countries amount:
0-10 no eny
for every player above 10 +.25 eny up to a 20 player advantage i.e. with a 20 player advantage your eny would be 5.0
for 21-30 player advantage an additional .5 eny or at 30 player advantage, your eny would be 10.
beyond 30 player advantage eny is +1 for each additional player. i.e. at 40 player advantage eny is 20, up to the max eny penalty.

Another suggestion is get rid of the 12 hour side switch.. it seems to have had the unintended effect of keeping players on the overmaned side in place rather than encouraging them to switch to a more advantageous eny country, since they would be stuck there for 12 hours (log on time).

[Debrody]

Dude
ok i might be a bit rude
but think about it.
Trust me, the la5 handles exactly the same as the la7. If you take a look on the changelog between theese two aircrafts, you will realize, why.
I made my tests a year ago: the la series clearly outperform the p38s in everything but prop hanging ability. Do an offline test if you dont trust in me. Also theres a wonderful plane vs plane comprasion chart right on the main page... wanna me to post that? Also see Doc Gonzo's site... P38s full flap turn radius is around 520 feet, the la's one is about 450... if you cant outmaneuver a 38 in an la7, they are hackhacking for sure     : )
Im flying a ride what has a top speed of 337 at sea level, yet youre complaining about players dont wanna engage your 355mph la5 so youre flying the 377mph la7... haha

Even tho somehow i can agree with your point about the eny, youre working against yourself.

Edit   if you ever could outmaneuver me...  i gonna eat my hat. Not couse im that good...  im friggen lame.

[Delirium]

if you cant outmaneuver a 38 in an la7, they are hackhacking for sure

Except for turn rate, the La7 and La5 holds all the cards below 8k, including top speed, acceleration, climb rate, and roll rate against the 38G and J and most of time vs the L. Above 8k, the P38 has a slightly higher climb rate until 15k when the difference is remarkable.

Having seen some of the whines from Hotard in the past (ie 'HTC hates the bish'), I know talking to him about reality is a waste of time.