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Did tanks only have white smoke?
« on: October 05, 2011, 03:08:19 PM »
we know many tanks in the game have smoke munitions. But did they have more than just white smoke? did they ever use different colors?

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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 06:10:25 PM »
Smoke grenades fired from tanks are all one color. Smoke generated from engine is blue grey. Choked on both of them for years.
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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 06:20:43 PM »
we know many tanks in the game have smoke munitions. But did they have more than just white smoke? did they ever use different colors?
IIRC i think some tanks in WW-2 used colored smoke such as green or yellow to mark targets/mark themselves as friendlies if allied planes were attacking them.

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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 07:19:19 PM »
IIRC i think some tanks in WW-2 used colored smoke such as green or yellow to mark targets/mark themselves as friendlies if allied planes were attacking them.

This is what im looking for, any historical backup?

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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 03:24:36 PM »
IIRC I saw an interview with a Canadian tanker saying they fired yellow (or some other color) to mark themselves as friendly when being strafed by a typhoon by mistake. 

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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 07:49:50 PM »
For colored smoke we just had colored hand grenades. Yellow, Red, Violet, Green and Heavy cloud "HC" which was white.
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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 10:28:52 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtCLmYSfZNw&feature=related

Fast forward to about 3:00 in this video and they talk about using yellow smoke.

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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 03:53:31 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtCLmYSfZNw&feature=related

Fast forward to about 3:00 in this video and they talk about using yellow smoke.

"Canisters of yellow smoke" not smoke shells.

Smoke, one would think, would primarily be used as concealment in a tank. If you are going to fire anything at the enemy you would want to be offensive versus giving your position away just to mark something.

What I have read, the Allies used colored panels to mark their positions for friendly aircraft. They don't give you away as they can only be seen from the air.



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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 04:12:41 PM »
"Canisters of yellow smoke" not smoke shells.

Smoke, one would think, would primarily be used as concealment in a tank. If you are going to fire anything at the enemy you would want to be offensive versus giving your position away just to mark something.

What I have read, the Allies used colored panels to mark their positions for friendly aircraft. They don't give you away as they can only be seen from the air.



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So this would just be like open the hatch and toss out a couple of smoke grenades?  I could see that happening.

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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 06:11:07 PM »
picture of M18 colored smoke grenades. They haven't changed from WWII.
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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 06:29:07 PM »
Tank firing smoke grenades
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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2011, 01:26:40 AM »
picture of M18 colored smoke grenades. (Image removed from quote.) They haven't changed from WWII.

That's a V100 not an M-18.

Pic url: http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/armour/images/gallery/apc/EKN_68_0089_VN.jpg

25 years post WWII.

edit: may be a M113 but that doesn't look like an ACAV kit.
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An M113 APC follows a Centurion tank through thick scrub. Fitted with a turret, this APC is also armed with twin .30 inch machine guns. The crew commander has an M79 grenade launcher close to hand and smoke canisters are at the ready attached to the outside of the turret.
edit #3: Ohhhh. They are M-18 smoke grenades, WWII vintage?


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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2011, 01:20:30 PM »
We used the M18 all through the time I was in the army 1978 - 2001.
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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2011, 05:38:35 PM »
We used the M18 all through the time I was in the army 1978 - 2001.
:huh  you have to be kidding. even the marine corps (step children of the dod) eliminated tank destroyers, like the m36 and m50 in favor of dragon and tow missiles on various vehicle mounts by 1980.
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Re: Did tanks only have white smoke?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2011, 06:09:13 PM »
gyrene,  check the smoke grenades..... Mk18 smoke yellow!


  I dont think he meant Mk18TD.





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