Gunsight Package

[EskimoJoe]

if you want a B-25 gunsight, for the 75mm i can give it to you. just dont know where i placed it...
EDIT: found it! (Image removed from quote.)


i know the circle is for close range, first line about 1k and the 2nd is about 2k. not sure about the 3rd though, i think it was either 3k or 2.5k.

No offense, but I wouldn't use that POS.

AKP's original 'how to' thread on the B25H gunsight from 2009.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,266812.0.html

[skorpion]

No offense, but I wouldn't use that POS.

AKP's original 'how to' thread on the B25H gunsight from 2009.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,266812.0.html

i didnt make it, it was someone else but if you have problems you can take it up with whoever made it.

just a sight i used first off until a better one came out.

[bustr]

If you guys can convert the length of the CV to centemeters, yards to meters and get an Angular Mil formula from WiKipedia. Then you have the basis for setting up CV width lines on the 512x512 gunsight I posted in this thread. Offline you will need to determin the drop at say 4.4k, 4k, 3.5k 3k, 2.5k for the 75mm from an alt of 1-2k feet.

About half way down the page is a Metric Mildot formula.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_mil

1.}Fly at the CV at 90 degrees to it's line of travel about 1-2k feet high.
2.}Having determined the width of the CV in Mil at the various distances modify that gunsight with it and test shots for range.
3.}Place vertical bars on each side of center the width of the CV in Mil at each Mil range bar that works.
4.}Do all testing at full zoom.

Now after about 4-5 hours of offline work you have a point and click B25-H CV killing gunsight.

So how many of you are even gonna give this a try??   

[FBCrabby]

after blowing my mind with another gigantic blast of gun-sight knowledge, I'm going to go play with it in offline...

Hell, I might make a video on it... "meh"

[olds442]

what makes you think i even decided to look at the "first" version of your soundpack when you made it? i heard from other people what you did.

also, nice PM. hope to see you next week.


oh and bustr-your gunsight wasnt supposed to be in this pack, i accidentally put yours in instead of the one i made.    (didnt realize it was in here)

lol so u not downloading it YOU ALREADY KNOW what its like try it for yourself.

[TequilaChaser]

Gunsight making is pretty much a useless endeavor, as someone will have to come up with something that tops what Sketch or the AoM's have out there. And I don't think that can be done.

can you post a link to what Sketch  or the AoM's  have out there regarding "Gun sights"

I wasn't aware the AoM's  had made any gun sights, am interested in seeing those, please... anyone???

didn't the single ( and double ) dot  site come from Snapshots  other squad  or maybe the BK's?  I ferget his older squads name?  13th?  was it?


thanks

TC

[skorpion]

lol so u not downloading it YOU ALREADY KNOW what its like try it for yourself.

heres how i know- other people. you didnt even download the pack yourself. arent you only 10 or something?

[ink]

can you post a link to what Sketch  or the AoM's  have out there regarding "Gun sights"

I wasn't aware the AoM's  had made any gun sights, am interested in seeing those, please... anyone???

didn't the single ( and double ) dot  site come from Snapshots  other squad  or maybe the BK's?  I ferget his older squads name?  13th?  was it?


thanks

TC

as far as I know only the "Dot O death" is a AOM sight...

http://www.dasmuppets.com/gunsights/x1/X-1_gunsight.rar

[AKP]

No offense, but I wouldn't use that POS.

AKP's original 'how to' thread on the B25H gunsight from 2009.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,266812.0.html

Hehe... still use it too. 


Once you learn how to use it, you can hit aircraft with the 75mm from 1500 out... rarely, but you can.  What I have found it best for is deacking with one shot from 1500 out.  Done properly, you can take out 3 guns in one pass.  Also works great on softer ground vehicles, buildings, etc...  Tanks are tricky.  Each one has a soft spot that the HE round "can" get a kill with... but each one is different.

I actually made a simplified version of it that I use in everything else I fly too:



The outer set of diagonal lines match up with the bullet streams on "most" wing mounted guns.  The inner diagonal lines match up with "most" nose mounted gun bullet streams.

I took most of the extra BS off of it, as it just clutters up things and isnt needed.

The vertical scale is for use with heavier cannons like the 37mm and 40mm... or the 75mm in the B25H.  I left the range markers off of this one so its more generic.   It is also somewhat useful for rockets.  You will have to get the feel of where each cannon or rocket type falls on the scale as you use them.

It says "Have A Nice Day".... cause that's what I say to myself when I light someone up in it 

[uptown]

can you post a link to what Sketch  or the AoM's  have out there regarding "Gun sights"

I wasn't aware the AoM's  had made any gun sights, am interested in seeing those, please... anyone???

didn't the single ( and double ) dot  site come from Snapshots  other squad  or maybe the BK's?  I ferget his older squads name?  13th?  was it?


thanks

TC

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,194208.0.html Here is BOPs gunsights to look over until I can remember where I found Sketches link. If I can't find it i'll post what I have on Mediafire for ya. As far as AoM sights, IIRC I just got those off of their website. But that was a few years ago. I have no idea if they're still up. Maybe on of them could post something here on that.

[ink]

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,194208.0.html Here is BOPs gunsights to look over until I can remember where I found Sketches link. If I can't find it i'll post what I have on Mediafire for ya. As far as AoM sights, IIRC I just got those off of their website. But that was a few years ago. I have no idea if they're still up. Maybe on of them could post something here on that.

psst...look up

[uptown]

Here we go http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,282581.0.html

[SlapShot]

can you post a link to what Sketch  or the AoM's  have out there regarding "Gun sights"

I wasn't aware the AoM's  had made any gun sights, am interested in seeing those, please... anyone???

didn't the single ( and double ) dot  site come from Snapshots  other squad  or maybe the BK's?  I ferget his older squads name?  13th?  was it?


thanks

TC

The Dot 'O Death that I made was a remake of the same infamous gun sight that the 13th TAS used.

The Dot 'O Death can be found here ...

http://www.dogfightersclub.org/gunsights/dot_o_death.htm

Anything else is a cheap imitation ...

[bustr]

after blowing my mind with another gigantic blast of gun-sight knowledge, I'm going to go play with it in offline...

Hell, I might make a video on it... "meh"

Try using this to build your N-3B for your B-25H....Kinda looks like a GV gunners optic dosen't it? Same principles apply to a 75mm whatever you have it mounted in. The one in the B-25H is the T13E1 / M5 Light Weight 75mm. Muzzle velocity: 619 m/s (2030 ft/s).

----CV - 230m long
~56Mil @ 4400 yards<----Maximum efective range for T13E1 / M5 Light Weight 75mm.
~63Mil @ 4000 yards
~72Mil @ 3500 yards
~83Mil @ 3000 yards
100Mil @ 2500 yards




All of this bacame simple because HiTech was kind enough to adjust his gunsight FOV coad so 1Mil=2Pixel in 512x512 mode. You just plug numbers into an angular mil formula and out comes width in Mil at any given distance. You determin the drop point for the 75mm by flying between 1000-2000 feet north with the offline target out. 4400 yards is about the maximum resonable range for the 75mm.

Then you take your generalised numbers for drop and distance and place Mil brackets on a test gunsight at about the drop point below center that you think the round will hit the deck or hull when the CV just fits between the brackets. Remember, the speed the CV travels is fast enough that past about 3k you need to lead it a bit or you will watch your 75mm round land spot on but in the middle of its wake.

Four or five hours later it works about 70% of the time.

This is still up to your skill to make it work. Before the real B25H received the AN/APG-13A gunsight radar, hits beyond 2000 yards were about 1 in 9. Hits 2000 and closer were about 1 in 4 even with the range dial on the N3 gunsight. Attacking shipping 2000 and closer was very dangerous for the B25H crews in the Pacific. The late war AN/APG-13A gunsight radar made it possible to hit ships at 4000 yards outside of most man aimed ack fire.

Bet most of you are just gonna try and covert this thing to a bitmap and tell me to "fudge off". Too bad. You learn alot more about flying and shooting the B-25's 75mm by following all of these directions to build your own from scratch. That picture isn't scaled to 1Mil=2pixel. It's from a (How To) I wrote for my "Pigs" back around August of this year.

[AKP]

Too bad. You learn alot more about flying and shooting the B-25's 75mm by following all of these directions to build your own from scratch.

Absolutely... and good stuff here!