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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #480 on: October 01, 2017, 02:55:53 PM »
Somewhat similar to Italian uniforms then?

With the exception of the Italians not experiencing any sort of time out.

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #481 on: October 01, 2017, 03:00:44 PM »
With the exception...

Well of course there would be.
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #482 on: October 01, 2017, 03:09:13 PM »
Well of course there would be.

No ... of course there was. :)

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #483 on: October 01, 2017, 04:03:07 PM »
"Sophism-lite. The new multipurpose paint to cover all your unsightly biases".

I do hope this French plane gets added before any more poorly-designed Italian aircraft.

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #484 on: October 01, 2017, 04:36:56 PM »
"Sophism-lite. The new multipurpose paint to cover all your unsightly biases".

Sophism: a fallacious argument, especially one used deliberately to deceive.

Well that's rather ironic, in itself.

I do hope this French plane gets added before any more poorly-designed Italian aircraft.

Why (other than you apparently have unresolved issues with me)? :)

Poorly designed comparison:

Dewoitine D.520

Performance

Maximum speed: 560 km/h (302 kn, 347 mph)
Range: 1,250 km (675 nmi, 777 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (33,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 14.3 m/s (2,820 ft/min)
Wing loading: 167 kg/m2 (34.2 lb/ft2)
Power/mass: 257 W/kg (0.156 hp/lb)

Armament

Guns:
1 × 20 mm Hispano-Suiza HS.404 (60-round drum) cannon
4 × 7.5 mm (0.295 in) MAC 1934 (675 rpg) machine guns

Reggiane Re.2005

Performance

Never exceed speed: 980 km/h (609 mph)
Maximum speed:628 km/h (390 mph) at 6,950 m (22,800 ft)
Cruise speed: 515 km/h (320 mph)
Stall speed: 155 km/h (96 mph)
Range: 980 km (610 mi) on internal fuel (1,130 km (700 mi) w/ 300 L drop tank; 1,270 km (790 mi) w/ 300 L + 2 × 150 L drop tanks)
Service ceiling: 11,500 m (37,700 ft)
Rate of climb: 20 m/s (3,900 ft/min) (6,000 m in 6.5 min)
Wing loading: max. 177 kg/m2 (36.25 lb/sq ft)

Armament

Guns:
2 × 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns in upper cowling (350 rpg);
1 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon firing through propeller hub (150 rpg);
2 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon in wings (200 rpg)

Bombs:

Underfuselage (non standard) hardpoint 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) bomb or 1 × 300 L (79.3 US gal) drop tank
Hardpoints on wings: 160 kilograms (350 lb) bombs or 2 × 150 litres (39.6 US gal) drop tanks

(I'm not much into 'emotional argument') ;)
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #485 on: October 02, 2017, 12:20:41 AM »
Poorly designed comparison:

So you're comparing a pre-war French design with a French engine to a late-war Italian one built around a German Daimley Benz engine with an inherent structural design flaw. Are you sure you're a PhD candidate? That argument tends to make you look like a bit of an analytical idiot.


(I'm not much into 'emotional argument') ;)

And I totally believe you. That's why when you disrespect an entire nation of people (the French) based on the actions of a minority and I point out the parallel between the entire Italian nation's actions in the same period, it's totally different. You are nothing more than rational,  logical, objective powerhouse aren't you. Like Mr. Spock almost (only different).


Why (other than you apparently have unresolved issues with me)? :)

Evidently not unresolved.  :)

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #486 on: October 02, 2017, 07:05:07 AM »
So you're comparing a pre-war French design with a French engine to a late-war Italian one built around a German Daimley Benz engine with an inherent structural design flaw. Are you sure you're a PhD candidate? That argument tends to make you look like a bit of an analytical idiot.

"I do hope this French plane gets added before any more poorly-designed Italian aircraft." (Your opinion of the Macchis noted.)

Again, ironic.

And I totally believe you. That's why when you disrespect an entire nation of people (the French) based on the actions of a minority and I point out the parallel between the entire Italian nation's actions in the same period, it's totally different. You are nothing more than rational,  logical, objective powerhouse aren't you. Like Mr. Spock almost (only different).


Evidently not unresolved.  :)

Evidently, Mr. Self-Proclaimed Champion of the French but with less humor. ;)

Relax, Francis.

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #487 on: October 02, 2017, 07:39:52 AM »
Again, ironic.

An obvious dose of your own medicine and a jab at your bias. Easy and on target, obviously.


Evidently, Mr. Self-Proclaimed Champion of the French but with less humor. ;)

Not especially, but respect where respect is due. A lot of brave French people and an outstanding historical military record. The most lightweight research would illuminate the validity of the insult you pressed and the reasons for the origins of that.


Relax, Francis.

Don't flatter yourself that you can raise tempers, your school-yard trolling doesn't warrant that much attention.

Got anything else?

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #488 on: October 02, 2017, 10:22:10 AM »
I wasn't even trying to get this much attention from you. I'm still wondering how long the drama will last. I'd thought it would have died out long ago. Carry on and may you find peace and contentment.

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #489 on: October 02, 2017, 12:17:09 PM »
I wasn't even trying to get this much attention from you.

Oh it's a free service I provide under very specific circumstances.


Carry on and may you find peace and contentment.

Hmmmm hmm.

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #490 on: October 02, 2017, 01:12:05 PM »
Oh it's a free service I provide under very specific circumstances.

Don't overestimate, mate.  :aok

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #491 on: December 23, 2017, 09:25:25 AM »
For XMAS?

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Re: Dewoitine D.520
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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #493 on: December 24, 2017, 01:02:57 AM »
For XMAS?

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Be sure to fly Axis in January's FSO "Conquest at Casablanca" where you can experience the closest thing to the D.520 - a Yak7b in Vichy French colors.



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Re: Dewoitine D.520
« Reply #494 on: December 24, 2017, 07:07:27 AM »
Be sure to fly Axis in January's FSO "Conquest at Casablanca" where you can experience the closest thing to the D.520 - a Yak7b in Vichy French colors.



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 :bhead  For a moment, you fooled me into believing that they added a new plane. :noid

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