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On Sleep and its Deprivation
« on: October 07, 2011, 09:01:50 PM »
Hello,

I've recently completed my first large scholarly work.  It is an essay concerning sleep patterns during puberty and their incompatibility with school start times of 7:20 AM.  During puberty, sleep cycles shift one hour later, which leads to lost sleep and drowsier mornings if teens wake at 6:00 AM.  The solution is to make school start times later so that teenagers can get their sleep, which will reduce depression and car accidents while increasing attendance and grades.

I've come here because I've found that some of you are very, very good at taking ideas apart, chewing them up, and then spitting back a thoughtful answer.  I hope that enough of you will do so that I will be able to change my essay before I submit it.

Acknowledgements:

  • If you'd like to say "tl;dr", just get out.  This is part of my effort to actually change the start time of my school, so please, take it seriously.
  • As of Friday, 7 October, 2011, 21:50 Eastern Standard Time, this essay remains a work in progress that is very similar to the open beta of a program.  In addition, I still need to collect a few more signatures on the petition that I will present along with the study to my principal (I should get around 30 more on Tuesday if everything pans out) before I will release the final version.

Thanks to:
  • My history teacher, Ms. Sullivan, who called me out on a conjectural point that I made before the entire class.  She taught me that I need to back up my statements before they exit my mouth.
  • My mom, she's a doctor who has access to a wealth of knowledge and references, and her medical advice helped me to explain why the problem is not of the mind, but of the body.
  • Those of you who have defeated me in debate.  I've taken every lesson that I've learned and tried my best to apply it here.

The actual essay begins below:

On Sleep and its Deprivation
Early to bed, early to rise, makes a teen feeble, faulty, and dull!
 


High school students are chronically sleep deprived which has serious academic, social mental and, general health consequences.  For their lack of alertness, the students may very well be undead, and they suffer depression, anger, and poor academic performance.  Though society may regard sleep as a luxury that the ambitious cannot afford [1], sleep is a necessary period during which the brain repairs itself and forms permanent memories, both of which are necessary for learning to occur.  Walpole High School is by nature, a learning institution, and to ignore adolescents’ difficulties in learning early in the morning would be self-defeating.  The solution is to change the start time of the high school to a much later hour, something already practiced in Sharon- in addition, it would improve the academic performance of elementary school children (who learn better earlier in the day), and increase safety by leaving teens more alert at the wheel or crosswalk.

Mary Carskadon from Brown University performed a study that lends weight to the point that teenagers are not at fault for their early-morning tiredness.  She found that during puberty the sleep cycle shifts to around 11 PM, which leads to a significantly later natural wake-up time.  In addition, Carskadon’s study found that teens are unable to fall asleep earlier even if physically exhausted, even with an appropriate time allowed for earlier sleep.  However, teenagers are the least likely to obtain all the sleep they need, they average 7 hours each day during the school year.  This, coupled with the fact that teenagers require 8.5 to 9.25 hours of sleep nightly [2] inhibits all higher functions.

Several studies mostly performed in public schools over the last two decades showed that changing the school start time to a later one has positive effects on students (7).  In addition, a recent study from Brown University (6) showed that even a thirty-minute delay in start time resulted in 79% decrease in the number of students sleeping for less than seven hours on school nights and moved the number of those having more than eight hours of sleep from 16.4% to 54.7%.  Daytime sleepiness, fatigue, depression, and tardiness decreased.

Landmark research from Minnesota (1996) led by Kyla Wahlstrom (9) studied a large population of 7000 students and 3000 teachers in two school districts, and 750 interviewed parents.  There was a significant reduction in school dropout rates, fewer instances of depression, and higher grades.  After the first year of the experiment 92% of interviewed parents stated they preferred later start times.  Puberty, and thus delayed sleep cycles begin in middle school, and a 2004 Massachusetts study compared two middle schools head to head.  One started at 8:37 AM and the other at 7:15 AM.  The students who got up earlier were tardy four times as often as their peers in the “late“ school and their  8th grade transcripts showed significantly lower grades (1) The changes in school start time did have impact on length of extracurricular activities, sports, jobs etc.  However, most parent s and coaches preferred the change because it gave them a chance to work with less tired students and there were fewer conflicts with adults.

Academic and athletic achievements are not all that is at stake.  A study from Kentucky (1, 4) evaluated the effects of delays in high-school start time in terms of hours of sleep and motor vehicle crashes.  A one-hour delay in the school start time resulted in an average one-hour increase in the nightly sleep of the students.  The average rates for car crashes among teen drivers dropped 16.5% over 2 years of the study, compared to two years before the study.  Furthermore, the incidence of car crashes increased by 7.8% in the rest of the state over the same period.  However, this is not the only safety issue helped by later start times.  Most high school students live in ‘latchkey’ arrangements, in which they finish school several hours before their parents arrive home from work.  Police reports show that it is during the period between the end of school and the arrival of parents at home that teen crime rates are the highest (3).  If school started later, teenagers would spend less time unsupervised, and therefore less time committing crime.  In fact, this issue is so important that it has reached the national legislature.

Congress acknowledged sleep deprivation as a public health concern in 1999.  Representative Zoe Lofren from California proposed a congressional resolution to encourage schools to delay start time to accommodate adolescents sleep demands.  Resolution 135 or the “ZZZs to As” Act proposes that the schools will move their start time to no earlier than 8:30 AM.  (5)  This is hardly an unbeaten path; in many schools in this very state have adopted later start times.  Ten schools in Boston have moved from a start time of 7:20 AM to a range of 7:45 to 8:30.  Owing to their efforts, Walpole can draw on their experience, especially the neighboring Sharon High School, to implement this change.  (10)

To conclude, Walpole’s students are depressed, numb and tired every morning.  It is not their fault; their melatonin cycles have shifted, leaving them lagging behind everyone else.  Early start times exacerbate this problem, and students must then cope with drowsiness, depression crime, death and maiming by horrific automobile crashes, and worst of all, reduced academic performance. 
 
BIBLIOGRAPHY:
[1] "Sleep isn’t a priority for teenagers, and it typically isn’t made one by parents or schools."
--Jodi Mindell, PhD, Director of Graduate Program in Psychology, St. Joseph’s University, and Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia
[2] http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/hot-topics/backgrounder-later-school-start-times
[3] In one study, subjects were tested using the psychomotor vigilance task (Von Dongen et al., 2003, as cited in Walker, 2009).  Different groups of people were tested with variable sleep times for two weeks: 8 hours, 6 hours, 4 hours, and total sleep deprivation.  Each day they were tested for the number of lapses on the PVT.  The results showed that as time went by, each group's performance worsened, with no sign of any stopping point.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_debt
[4] http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/hot-topics/backgrounder-later-school-start-times See ‘Changes in Melatonin’
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Biological_clock_human.PNG
[6] “…studies have shown that employers indicate a change in start times has not affected their business or the number of hours their student employees can work.  They indicate that extra help is not usually needed until school gets out anyway, so they can easily adjust to the new schedule.”
[7] http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/sleep-topics/school-start-time-and-sleep
[8] http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/sleep-topics/school-start-time-and-sleep
(1) National Sleep Foundation, “Backgrounder: Later School Start Times”
(4) Journal of Clinical Sleep Medicine, Scientific Investigations, “Adolescent Sleep, School Start Times,    and Teen Motor Vehicle Crashes” Fred Danner, Ph.D., Barbara Phillips, M.D., M.S.P.H.
(5) National Sleep Foundation, “School Start Time and Sleep”
(7) Wisconsin Medical Journal, ”Sleep, Sleepiness and School Start Times: A Preliminary Study”, Donn Dexter, M.D.; Jagdeep Bejwadia, M.D.; Dana Schilling; Gwendolyn Applebaugh, Ph. D.
(9) College of Education + Human Development, “LATER START TIMES FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS”
 (10) FOCUS On Children Boston Public Schools, “Superintendent Contomapasis proposes later start times for 10 Boston high schools”

-Penguin

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Re: On Sleep and its Deprivation
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 09:05:19 PM »
Go to bed earlier.

Count back from when you have to wake up how many hours you would like to sleep. I have to get up at 5:30 to get ready for work, I really need 7-8 hours to function well so though I don't like going to bed before 10, I do it. Someone as smart as you should've figured this out on your own.

Again: Go to bed earlier.

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Re: On Sleep and its Deprivation
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 09:11:29 PM »
Did you even read the essay?  During puberty, sleep cycles shift.  It is a well known fact.  There is nothing that those going through puberty can do about it.  It's like asking the rising tide to go out.  Eventually it will go out, but there is nothing that can be done until then.

EDIT: In addition, those going through puberty need 8-9 1/2 hours of sleep.  I'd have to go to bed at around 9 o'clock- something that no matter how much many teenagers and I try, we still lie awake, tossing and turning.

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 09:23:17 PM »
Exercise, tire yourself, it's not hard.

Schools don't ask for more than 8 hours from you to attend, given another 2 hours of studying and doing homework (which is way more than I or any other average student commits regularly) , that's 10 hours that they ask from you every day. You have FOURTEEN HOURS to eat, work, play, and sleep. How those hours are shared between those four activities is up to you to figure out like a responsible adult.

Where the sun is in the sky has zilch to do with when you may sleep. Find any publication on a .edu webpage that explicitly says otherwise and I will eat my hat.

A better argument would be about when students get home. If kids go to school late they get home late. Is it, in your opinion, a bad thing that children get home from school before the parents who work 9-5? Would it be a good thing for them to not have time to do any outdoor extra curriculars while the sun is still up?
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Re: On Sleep and its Deprivation
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 09:32:10 PM »
Sleep depends on the specific person. One person might require 10 hours of sleep and another (same age and physical condition) might only require 5. When you are growing up you need more sleep because...your still growing up.
I heard a lot about sleep cycles changing and I say BS to that. What happens when you switch time zones? For example Arizona is technically on maintain time but we don't follow daylight saving time and in the summer end up being on pacific time. That does not mean that it's easier to wake up in Arizona than it is in California.
You start wanting to sleep at the time when you normally go to bed, or earlier is you spend the specific day doing something more difficult than what you normally do.


I sleep 6 hours on weekdays & 12 hours on weekends, works out great. My record for no sleep for 4.5 days (no, I was not trying to set the record), I know plenty of people who can't even stay for 2 days. So in the end it all depends on the specific person.


P.S. Please don't quote me any doctors or scientific research, I never believe it. All my information is based on my experience.
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Re: On Sleep and its Deprivation
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 09:51:51 PM »
Exercise, tire yourself, it's not hard.

Schools don't ask for more than 8 hours from you to attend, given another 2 hours of studying and doing homework (which is way more than I or any other average student commits regularly) , that's 10 hours that they ask from you every day. You have FOURTEEN HOURS to eat, work, play, and sleep. How those hours are shared between those four activities is up to you to figure out like a responsible adult.

Where the sun is in the sky has zilch to do with when you may sleep. Find any publication on a .edu webpage that explicitly says that is not true and I will eat my hat.

This is precisely the problem.  We are not adults.  Stop expecting our bodies to be ready in our mid or late teens.  They won't be ready until our brains finish mylenating in our early to mid-twenties.  It's well worth the wait.  The sun, the moon, artificial lighting, and culture all play into when we go to bed.  Time zone frequently has the largest impact.  The problem is not with our behavior, it is with our bodies not being ready to sleep before 11:00.

Sleep depends on the specific person. One person might require 10 hours of sleep and another (same age and physical condition) might only require 5. When you are growing up you need more sleep because...your still growing up.
I heard a lot about sleep cycles changing and I say BS to that. What happens when you switch time zones? For example Arizona is technically on maintain time but we don't follow daylight saving time and in the summer end up being on pacific time. That does not mean that it's easier to wake up in Arizona than it is in California.
You start wanting to sleep at the time when you normally go to bed, or earlier is you spend the specific day doing something more difficult than what you normally do.


I sleep 6 hours on weekdays & 12 hours on weekends, works out great. My record for no sleep for 4.5 days (no, I was not trying to set the record), I know plenty of people who can't even stay for 2 days. So in the end it all depends on the specific person.


P.S. Please don't quote me any doctors or scientific research, I never believe it. All my information is based on my experience.

The changing of a time-zone is different.  The sun comes up at a different time, and so does everything in the entire day.  To attempt to sleep at the time one did in another time zone is foolish- the entire day fights against you.  To prove my point, observe your sleep habits when you take a plane ride toward Grenwich, England.  You will be tired in the middle of the day, and wide awake at night.  Interestingly, if you fly away from Grenwich, England, you will get some of the best night's sleep ever for about a week.  If you want to speak in terms of experience, I've been flying to and from Europe since the month after I was born.  Frankfurt, Warsaw, Gdansk (aka Danzig), Heathrow, I've seen them all.  I'm very well aware of what happens when you switch time zones.

If you choose not to believe doctors or scientific research, then try going without antibiotics when you get a nasty bacterial infection.  You'd be surprised how tough life was before modern medicine.  Depending on the bacteria, you might die.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 09:53:05 PM »
That pushed back hour you speak of is in relation to when teens go to bed.  They stay up watching more t.v. and playing on their computers.  It's not puberty that has pushed back the hour, it's actions that they have taken over time that causes them to push their sleep cycle back.  It can be a problem for some to go to bed earlier all of a sudden, but they can re-train their brain to get back to a more acceptable cycle.  Adults that work different shifts during the week can do it and yes, some complain about it, but it is doable.  Teens have never experienced having to do that so it seems that it's impossible.  What I mean by that is what you haven't experienced gives you no reference such as what you thought was the worst pain you ever felt before and what you would classify as a 10 on the pain scale, changes when you experience pain that actually is worse. Give it a try, and keep trying.  It will get easier.  
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 09:56:27 PM »
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Mary Carskadon from Brown University performed a study that lends weight to the point that teenagers are not at fault for their early-morning tiredness.  She found that during puberty the sleep cycle shifts to around 11 PM, which leads to a significantly later natural wake-up time.  In addition, Carskadon’s study found that teens are unable to fall asleep earlier even if physically exhausted, even with an appropriate time allowed for earlier sleep.

This is the problem.  I've read her study, and she is correct in her findings.

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 10:02:59 PM »
You may agree with her findings should be the correct way to say it.  Perhaps a link to her study so I can make a decision about whether or not I think she is correct?  How was her study done?  Was it Q&A?  How were the questions worded?  The question, "What time do you go to bed?" doesn't say that nature is causing teens to stay up later.  If so, teens would be sleeping a whole lot more in the winter and those in the arctic circle would hibernate.  I'm not coming down on you, just giving you the feed back you asked for and would like to see how you got your info so I could have a better discussion knowing why and how you are making your argument.

EDIT:  I found a link in your list of credits.  But you didn't bother to mention this being said about the study in the very first paragraph!

The roots of the problem include poor teen sleep habits that do not allow for enough hours of quality sleep
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 10:04:47 PM »
The changing of a time-zone is different.  The sun comes up at a different time, and so does everything in the entire day.  To attempt to sleep at the time one did in another time zone is foolish- the entire day fights against you.  To prove my point, observe your sleep habits when you take a plane ride toward Grenwich, England.  You will be tired in the middle of the day, and wide awake at night.  Interestingly, if you fly away from Grenwich, England, you will get some of the best night's sleep ever for about a week.  If you want to speak in terms of experience, I've been flying to and from Europe since the month after I was born.  Frankfurt, Warsaw, Gdansk (aka Danzig), Heathrow, I've seen them all.  I'm very well aware of what happens when you switch time zones.

I'm saying that Arizona and California are on the same time (during summer), yet the sun comes up at a different time. So that does not mean that it's easier to wake up in Arizona than it is in California.

When you go to Europe form the US the time changes almost 12 hours, that's a significant change. When I said about switching time zones I actually meant 2-3 hours.

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If you choose not to believe doctors or scientific research, then try going without antibiotics when you get a nasty bacterial infection.  You'd be surprised how tough life was before modern medicine.  Depending on the bacteria, you might die.

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I can't remember the last time I took antibiotics, hate them. Can't even remember the last time I went to the doctor for anything besides a medical.
Actually no, that's not true. Last May (at least I think it was May) I was feeling like crap for about two weeks. Was sleeping 18 hours a day (not because I had nothing better to do but because I could not stay awake), always feeling like crap, my body temperature was also way bellow normal. So after about a week and a half I went to the hospital, guess what they told me? They said that I'm perfectly ok.  :rofl About 3-4 days later I was ok, the only "pills" I took were vitamins.

Also when I was 10 I went to the doctor for something (would rather not explain the details on a public forum). Actually I went to 3 different doctors about the same problem. They all came up with the same conclusion and I listened to them. Because of that I had a whole bunch of problems for the next 6 years. In the end it turned out that all of them were wrong. Sometime after I found out that they were all wrong and stopped listening to them all the problems were over. So I try to stay away from doctors.
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Re: On Sleep and its Deprivation
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 10:14:17 PM »
im a bit of an insomniac, i have to regulate my sleep scheduale. If i stay up late even one night, it usually screws up my entire sleep cycle.

It's gotten better tho. Last year insomnia used to hit me bad. I'd stay up for days straight. Seemed like the more tired i got, the harder my body felt to stay awake. I did all i could to wear myself, but to no avail.

Longest ive ever stayed up was 6 days. And even when i finally did go to sleep, i slept about, 3 hrs.

Its gotten better tho as ive said, which is good.

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Re: On Sleep and its Deprivation
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 10:14:47 PM »
If you choose not to believe doctors or scientific research, then try going without antibiotics when you get a nasty bacterial infection.  You'd be surprised how tough life was before modern medicine.  Depending on the bacteria, you might die.

Tsk tsk tsk... you should be ashamed. Someone who touts their debate skills all the time and you stoop to such an absurd strawman. I won't even address it any further.

I found a link in your list of credits.  But you didn't bother to mention this being said about the study in the very first paragraph!

The roots of the problem include poor teen sleep habits that do not allow for enough hours of quality sleep

Could you point it out? I haven't found it yet, I first assumed he didn't list the source in his bibli at all.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 10:20:41 PM »
I'm saying that Arizona and California are on the same time (during summer), yet the sun comes up at a different time. So that does not mean that it's easier to wake up in Arizona than it is in California.

When you go to Europe form the US the time changes almost 12 hours, that's a significant change. When I said about switching time zones I actually meant 2-3 hours.

I can't remember the last time I took antibiotics, hate them. Can't even remember the last time I went to the doctor for anything besides a medical.
Actually no, that's not true. Last May (at least I think it was May) I was feeling like crap for about two weeks. Was sleeping 18 hours a day (not because I had nothing better to do but because I could not stay awake), always feeling like crap, my body temperature was also way bellow normal. So after about a week and a half I went to the hospital, guess what they told me? They said that I'm perfectly ok.  :rofl About 3-4 days later I was ok, the only "pills" I took were vitamins.

Like I said, it's the Time Zone that has the biggest impact.  If two Time Zones happen to be on the same time, then it would be just like having one big time zone.  When you go from Europe to the US the time changes six hours.  You're thinking of going to Asia (something that I would like to do one day).  I don't see how sleeping for 18 hours per day and feeling awful for two weeks is not "tough". 

You may agree with her findings should be the correct way to say it.  Perhaps a link to her study so I can make a decision about whether or not I think she is correct?  How was her study done?  Was it Q&A?  How were the questions worded?  The question, "What time do you go to bed?" doesn't say that nature is causing teens to stay up later.  If so, teens would be sleeping a whole lot more in the winter and those in the arctic circle would hibernate.  I'm not coming down on you, just giving you the feed back you asked for and would like to see how you got your info so I could have a better discussion knowing why and how you are making your argument.

EDIT:  I found the link in your list of credits.  But you didn't bother to mention this being said about the study in the very first paragraph!

The roots of the problem include poor teen sleep habits that do not allow for enough hours of quality sleep

That is partially correct, the article says that only several students would not take advantage of the extra time.  The rest took advantage of it.  Thanks for the help, though, I added the citation in.

Tsk tsk tsk... you should be ashamed. Someone who touts their debate skills all the time and you stoop to such an absurd strawman. I won't even address it any further.

Strawman?  No.  A strawman would ignore the major points of his argument.  My point about not using antibiotics directly adresses them- which MachFly later validates.

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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2011, 10:26:02 PM »
Like I said, it's the Time Zone that has the biggest impact.  If two Time Zones happen to be on the same time, then it would be just like having one big time zone.  When you go from Europe to the US the time changes six hours.  You're thinking of going to Asia (something that I would like to do one day).  I don't see how sleeping for 18 hours per day and feeling awful for two weeks is not "tough".  


Your not following me. You said that school needs to start later to that kids could have more sleep and that going to bed earlier will not help. In that case the only variable that's left is the position of the sun. So what about places where you have the same time over a large area? It's not like it's easier to wake up if you are more to the east.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2011, 10:26:45 PM »
Strawman?  No.  A strawman would ignore the major points of his argument.  My point about not using antibiotics directly adresses them- which MachFly later validates.

I never saw his little P.S. down there, my mistake.

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