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Re: The Doors
« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2011, 06:12:50 PM »
dont forget Jeff Beck...some say that the three never played together at the same time, but believe they would be wrong...jimmy played the bass. (supposedly while Beck and Clapton were in the band also)

Yep they all 3 were in the same band and played together  ........... that was before I was born ..... thinking it was early 60's ( 62/64 era I believe maybe lil later )

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2011, 07:18:07 PM »
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Re: The Doors
« Reply #92 on: October 12, 2011, 10:11:23 PM »
add..... John Mayall, J.J. Cale, Humble Pie, Traffic, Emerson Lake and Palmer, to the list.

I have every band posted on this thread on my Ipod.

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #93 on: October 12, 2011, 10:17:29 PM »
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Re: The Doors
« Reply #94 on: October 12, 2011, 10:24:13 PM »
add..... John Mayall, J.J. Cale, Humble Pie, Traffic, Emerson Lake and Palmer, to the list.

I have every band posted on this thread on my Ipod.

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2011, 10:52:05 PM »
All of those bands on that impressive list came after the Beatles.

The metamorphosis that you talked about happened when their manager recognized that they were a bar cover band that was unmarketable.  They would have been completely unsuccessful without cleaning up their act.  The music, on the other hand, was not affected by anyone other than themselves.  Most of their artistic growth came after their second album.  Their first two records were them doing the cover tunes that they played at their shows and a few songs that they wrote that emulated the songs that they played in their shows.

It kinda sound like you dislike them for daring to be so successful...  Starting with A Hard Day's Night the cover songs started to go away and they began boldly changing popular music.  When you listen to "I Want to Hold Your Hand" next to "Come Together" it's hard to believe that they were only a little over six years apart.

It's okay to prefer heavier music over the fluff that the Beatles put out but to totally dismiss their influence is just ignorant.

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #96 on: October 12, 2011, 10:59:59 PM »
Lynyrd Skynyrd!  They turned a lot of old songs into RR.

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #97 on: October 12, 2011, 11:03:08 PM »
Humble Pie!  30 Days in the Hole!
I saw them in 81 or so, they opened and closed with "I Don't Need No Doctor"
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« Reply #98 on: October 12, 2011, 11:07:39 PM »
All of those bands on that impressive list came after the Beatles.

The metamorphosis that you talked about happened when their manager recognized that they were a bar cover band that was unmarketable.  They would have been completely unsuccessful without cleaning up their act.  The music, on the other hand, was not affected by anyone other than themselves.  Most of their artistic growth came after their second album.  Their first two records were them doing the cover tunes that they played at their shows and a few songs that they wrote that emulated the songs that they played in their shows.

It kinda sound like you dislike them for daring to be so successful...  Starting with A Hard Day's Night the cover songs started to go away and they began boldly changing popular music.  When you listen to "I Want to Hold Your Hand" next to "Come Together" it's hard to believe that they were only a little over six years apart.

It's okay to prefer heavier music over the fluff that the Beatles put out but to totally dismiss their influence is just ignorant.

Actually, The Beatles, The Who and Stones share the same influences:  Skiffle and R&B.    Brian Epstein had the biggest impact on their success.   When he died, the House or Cards burned from within.
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Re: The Doors
« Reply #99 on: October 13, 2011, 12:37:02 AM »
Actually, The Beatles, The Who and Stones share the same influences:  Skiffle and R&B.    Brian Epstein had the biggest impact on their success.   When he died, the House or Cards burned from within.

yep,    the beatles  and the stones are nearly the same age as a group   late 59 to early 61  era  and the yardbirds are right close to them as well......

Chess records ( Cadillac records   some called it )  brought the stones to the US   as well as having Clapton show up and record in the studio at times in the early mid 60's

delta blues  influenced the Rolling stones   also influenced  Page, Beck, Clapton, Jones etc......    oh and Bob Dylan should be included right there in the late 50's  early 60's as well.....

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #100 on: October 13, 2011, 12:38:16 AM »
I actually like Kiss and AC/DC. I hated AC/DC for a while but you've got to give props to a 65 year old man (Brian Johnson) for still being able to pack arenas whenever and where ever he wants. I just think Kiss are goofy and I like goofy stuff. I am a musician as well so these aren't merely laymans thoughts.
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Re: The Doors
« Reply #101 on: October 13, 2011, 01:09:35 AM »
My oldest son got me to listen to AC/DC a bit.  I was never a fan first time around, but some of there stuff grew on me.  As a teenager in the 70s I survived KISS.  Never did get it.  Oldest son was a huge Page/ Led Zep fan.  I took him to see Page and Plant when they came around.  Maybe it was the Zep saturation we got as teenagers, but I was never a huge fan of theirs either.  To me they were the ultimate product of the tail end of the 60s early 70s era where there was a ton of money to be made and a lot of excess in the music.  Pink Floyd was a product of that time too.  Not knocking either band, but never saw them as the greatest thing since sliced bread either.

It was feeding oldest son different bands and types of music that got me to listen to the Doors again.  I'd read "No one Gets out of here Alive" when I was about 15 in the mid 70s.  I kind of resented Morrison for literally wasting himself like he did.  I've always figured with those kinds of smarts he should have known better.  And I always wonder how the legend would have grown had he not died.  You can be perfect after you are dead as you can't make any mistakes anymore.  I think it tends to make those artists a bit more untouchable.  John Lennon is another example of that as is Hendrix.  Odds are the 'what if' is always going to be better then the reality of what they'd have done as they grew older.

Oldest son and I would debate this stuff and dig to try and put some kind of perspective on it and we ended up coming to the conclusion that The Beatles and Dylan opened the door and with their success it allowed a lot of other folks to follow in terms of writing their own stuff and controlling what they did.  The Stones took it in a more bluesy direction and kept it from getting to pop, with other bands like the Yardbirds, Cream, Zep heading down that path. 

The 70s as mentioned headed down the road to excess which wasn't all bad, but it did seem like the music got taken over by the money makers even more and was purely manufactured.  It wasn't until the tail end that it seemed like folks like Springsteen, Tom Petty, U2 and folks like that tried to get it back to the music and less of the for lack of a better word 'polyester' that seemed to fill much of that time.  The 80s...ugh.  Thankfully I was too busy with little ones.  The only thing that stood out to me was GNR's first album that seemed to me to save us from hair bands for a time.  The 90s and beyond?  Three teenagers who thankfully listened to much of what I liked, although the daughters worried me for a long time :)

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #102 on: October 13, 2011, 02:05:39 AM »
I have a lot Soul and R&B on White label demos from the US  :old:

Jack Montgomety "Don't turn your back on" $300 I believe now :)

Jack Wilson Demo White label

Some Otis Redding on Volt label.

Some Yardbirds and 1968 deep purple stuff
Small faces with Steve Marriott  :)

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Re: The Doors
« Reply #103 on: October 13, 2011, 07:30:11 AM »
My oldest son got me to listen to AC/DC a bit.  I was never a fan first time around, but some of there stuff grew on me.  As a teenager in the 70s I survived KISS.  Never did get it.  Oldest son was a huge Page/ Led Zep fan.  I took him to see Page and Plant when they came around.  Maybe it was the Zep saturation we got as teenagers, but I was never a huge fan of theirs either.  To me they were the ultimate product of the tail end of the 60s early 70s era where there was a ton of money to be made and a lot of excess in the music.  Pink Floyd was a product of that time too.  Not knocking either band, but never saw them as the greatest thing since sliced bread either.

It was feeding oldest son different bands and types of music that got me to listen to the Doors again.  I'd read "No one Gets out of here Alive" when I was about 15 in the mid 70s.  I kind of resented Morrison for literally wasting himself like he did.  I've always figured with those kinds of smarts he should have known better.  And I always wonder how the legend would have grown had he not died.  You can be perfect after you are dead as you can't make any mistakes anymore.  I think it tends to make those artists a bit more untouchable.  John Lennon is another example of that as is Hendrix.  Odds are the 'what if' is always going to be better then the reality of what they'd have done as they grew older.

Oldest son and I would debate this stuff and dig to try and put some kind of perspective on it and we ended up coming to the conclusion that The Beatles and Dylan opened the door and with their success it allowed a lot of other folks to follow in terms of writing their own stuff and controlling what they did.  The Stones took it in a more bluesy direction and kept it from getting to pop, with other bands like the Yardbirds, Cream, Zep heading down that path. 

The 70s as mentioned headed down the road to excess which wasn't all bad, but it did seem like the music got taken over by the money makers even more and was purely manufactured.  It wasn't until the tail end that it seemed like folks like Springsteen, Tom Petty, U2 and folks like that tried to get it back to the music and less of the for lack of a better word 'polyester' that seemed to fill much of that time.  The 80s...ugh.  Thankfully I was too busy with little ones.  The only thing that stood out to me was GNR's first album that seemed to me to save us from hair bands for a time.  The 90s and beyond?  Three teenagers who thankfully listened to much of what I liked, although the daughters worried me for a long time :)

The question I've asked my kids over the years is name me something from today that will still be played on the radio in 20 years and stand the test of time.  Still waiting for an answer :)



seriously cant stand the stones. mick jagger is straight up sukage at its best :aok

another thing  I cant stand is when bands lose a member and they continue...huge respect for The Members of Zepp, once Bonham died they knew they couldn't replace him so they stopped playing as Zeppelin....how many others did that?    None that I can think of.

No other Band rocked the world the way Zeppelin did.....every rock "critic" from back then, is eating their words....Zepp was one of the most hated bands by the critics, they were banned from many cities, many radio stations refused to play them...yet they still broke EVERY ONE of the beatles records, in sales and attendance...as a matter of fact Zepp is still the most requested Band of all time..even though they have not been together in twenty years, talk about staying power.
 
the beatles can directly blame Zeppelin for their demise, once Zeppelin came on to the scene most people where like "the beatles...who? :headscratch:"


there can be only one top dog...and in the music scene Led Zeppelin is their name. :rock


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Re: The Doors
« Reply #104 on: October 13, 2011, 07:51:31 AM »
oh forgot to say

best band to come out of the 80's was TESLA  and they are my all time favorite band..........

also  Molly Hatchet, Blackfoot, Marshall Tucker Band,  anyone ever hear of "Southern Culture on the Skids"?     Great White and Dokken  were ok too......


during a side step in my youth  I liked Generation X, Billy Idol, the runaways/Joan Jett,  INXS,  early days of U2 ( Sunday bloody Sunday ),  some   Clash     some straycats .....  some dire straits ...... u know  " I want my MTV"   ROFL....

video killed the radio star .......


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